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Re: LF: Re: Re: US 500-kHz band plan

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: US 500-kHz band plan
From: "mal hamilton" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:47:42 +0100
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The same applies here M0BMU does not represent LF/MF UK activity. It appears this was a false start and generated unnecessary debate.
G3KEV

----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: US 500-kHz band plan


Jim, Alan,

    Fritz does NOT represent all of the US 500kHz activity and his
band plan is not being followed here by non-XSH stations so I would
take all this with a large grain of salt.  Keep in mind that in
addition to WD2XSH there is WE2XPQ, WD2XFX, and WE2XTT, and a half
dozen WE2XGR stations as well as other pending applications.

--
73 Warren K2ORS
               WD2XGJ
               WD2XSH/23
               WE2XEB/2
               WE2XGR/1




On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Alan Melia <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Jim. whist it involves a change in "usage" from our end it would not seem
unreasonable to ensure that the US stations have a chance of hearing us
without nearby swamping. I think this is an interesting development becasuse
it now seems that Frtiz is extending the experiment to intercontinental
tests/qsos.......an activity he discouraged earlier....due to the terms of
the original application and grant I believe. I have to admit my opinions
carry very little weight as a "non-active operator" :-)) But maybe it will
stimulate others with differing opinions to voice them to you.

Best wishes
Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Moritz" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:14 PM
Subject: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan


Dear LF Group,

I still haven't replied to Fritz Raab, W1FR, regarding the WD2XSH US band
plan which he is apparently coordinating - you may remember I posted the
US
proposals, which he sent me, a couple of weeks ago, but have not received
any comments from other UK/Eu stations. I think I should reply with
something, so now is your chance... The proposal relates to the US
allocation extending to 495 - 515kHz, and how that would fit in with
current
UK and Eu beacon operations. The content of the e-mail is below. The issue
is that they would like to make a 501.0 - 501.2kHz WSPR sub-band, to fit
in
with the various other proposals. Various other types of beacon modes are
allocated frequencies outside the UK/EI/ON 501 - 504kHz range, while
501.2 -
504kHz is allocated to "general comms". Retaining frequencies just below
504kHz would divide their "general comms" band in two

I don't think there is anything preventing us from doing this, it is just
the inconvenience of turning the current band "upside-down". Let me know
what you think!

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

>>>From W1FR:

Greetings:

Thanks for the comments on the band plan, passed
along to me by W1XP.

About a month ago, a modification to the WD2XSH
license was approved that adds stations and gives us
access to 495 - 510 kHz. Perhaps half of the 42 stations
will eventually get on the air. Because of NDBs, some
stations are limited to parts of this band and we will
have two calling frequencies and two beacon bands.

A draft of our new band plan follows. Of particular
interest is WSPR. As I see it, our options are:

(a) 501.0-501.2: Conveniently on one side of our comms
band. Will not overload WSPR receivers near 504 kHz.
Apparently in EU CW-beacon band.

(b) 503.8-504.0: Apparently same as what you guys are
using. Cuts our comms band in the middle. Nearby
stations may overload US receivers trying to hear EUs.

(c) 503.9-504.1: Same problems as above with cutting
comms band in two and overloading. Conveniently
straddles both G/ON/EI and Canadian bands.

Any further thoughts you may have will be
appreciated.


73, Fritz, W1FR

Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
77 Vermont Avenue, Fort Ethan Allen
Colchester, Vermont 05446 USA
Tel./Fax.: +1 (802) 655-9670 Home: +1 (802) 862-0997
E-mail: [email protected]

BASIC BAND PLAN for WD2XSH

f, kHz USE

495.0 - 495.1 QRSS, 1-Hz spacing, 40 stations
495.1 - 495.6 CW/PSK beacons midwest, 100-Hz spacing, 10 stations
495.6 - 499.0 Comms
497.5 Calling frequency
499.0 - 501.0 Reserved for heritage stations and special events
501.0 - 501.2 WSPR
501.2 - 505.0 Comms
505.0 - 505.2 DX window
505.2 - 508.5 Comms
507.5 Calling frequency
508.5 - 510.0 CW/PSK beacons east, south, west, Pacific, 50-Hz spacing,
30
stations
510.0 - 511.0 WE2XGR beacons
511.0 - 515.0 WE2XGR SSB and wideband modes


OTHER IN-BAND SIGNALS

503.976 NEED LSB
505.0 NEED carrier
506.024 NEED USB

508.976 OF/FA LSB
510.0 OF/FA carrier
511.024 OF/FA USB








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