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Re: LF: Razor blade RX .... Try a Cohere?

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Subject: Re: LF: Razor blade RX .... Try a Cohere?
From: "mal hamilton" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:26:31 -0000
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Pete and co
You are wandering away from the subject. My question was not on the merits of detectors etc, simply how to build a razor blade detector and suitable earphone using scrap parts available in a trench or Jail, for instance in 1940
I have all the answers if you get stuck and I did not get it from an internet source. Its fundamental knowledge that a radio amateur should know and especially if the BIG BANG should happen
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From: M0FMT
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Razor blade RX .... Try a Cohere?

 Hi Rik and LF
 
But that's the point,  an envelope detector will not detect CW (ON / OFF Keying) unless A/ you have a local oscillator (DC rx) to create a beat in the detector, added complication in design or B/ unless the carrier has got noise on it (sparker) or it is modulated, added bandwidth for no extra intelligence.
 
If we go away from a simple detector RX and add amplification to an envelope detector the recovered DC from a CW signal could be used to operate a switch to activate a Buzzer, light or side tone oscillator but I don't think thats in the spirit of the spirit of the challenge.
 
However a Coherer detector does everything for CW in one simple easy to construct mechanical device with no fiddling with cats whiskers or the risk of cutting a vital artery with a sharp razor blade! And no need for high impedance cans.
 
I rest my case for the Coherer detector.I think Edouard Branly and Oliver Lodge got it dead right!
 
The challenge is to make a QSO using the Razor Blade RX I am working on it. But a counter Challenge is to use a Coherer for a two way QSO, I am working on that also. However it's very cold in my garage right now so don't expect a result from me soon but better setup ops may have a result sooner.
 
Regards 73 petefmt

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Rik Strobbe <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Rik Strobbe <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: Razor blade RX .... Try a Cohere?
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 8:11 AM

MCW: what a waste of bandwidth, Mal will allert OFCOM !

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 00:42 7/01/2009, you wrote:
 No problem! Use MCW! Has been typical for 500 kHz.

73 DJ1ZB


 "M0FMT" <[email protected]> schrieb:
Hi Mal and LF

 
I am disapointed in you Mal to be considering an envelope detector. A true CW man, I would have thought, should only entertain the use of a Cohere detector!

 
Having played with them, I was surprised how well they work over a range 136kc/s to 433mc/s (the extent of my power RF O/P) probably work over a much lager range of frequencies but not tested by me.

 
http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/coherer.htm

 
73 pefmt





 
--- On Tue, 6/1/09, mal hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
From: mal hamilton <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: Razor blade RX
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, 6 January, 2009, 9:21 PM

Your own cct and ideas and the headphone construction. Not info from the web.
g3kev

----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Razor blade RX

310113517964   E bay too

 
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:00:45 -0000 "mal hamilton" <[email protected]> writes:
Since I mentioned a Razor blade and fence wire RX a while back I have had several requests for a circuit. To give others the opportunity to submit a cct I will await replies. This method was used successfully  at Coldiz and other POW camps to receive BBC broadcasts.
Let us know how you would approach the subject. This is applicable to MF/LF since the broadcasts at the time were receicved on these bands.
Build one and have a QSO using this RX
g3kev

 


 


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