----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 5:18
PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: 500 Khz
modes
Mal read YOUR licence
it was issued by Ofcom for normal people not ex
Radio Officers. Ofcom are not part of HM government.
It does not refer to any definitions that
may or may not appear in the 'Handbook for Radio
Officers'
Early licences issued by the RA clearly
state in the first paragraph, that the licence is for self training in
communication by wireless telegraphy. It does not say Telegraphy, Telephony
and data transmissions, because they are all covered in accepted usage by the
one term.
In accordance with this, the term wireless
telegraphy has been dropped from the latest licence from Ofcom and replaced by
'radio telecommunications' presumably because the old wording confused some
people. The licence then specifies some of the modes allowed, including
Morse telegraphy. section 1 (5)a
When did Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949
suddenly not apply to anything other than Morse code? perhaps you should read
it...
Perhaps you alone are immune to prosecution
should you decide to broadcast a spoof mayday or similar on a marine voice
radio, because of the clause that refers to sending of such a message by
wireless telegraphy. Perhaps you should be campaigning to clear the name of
those already prosecuted for such offences, as they are clearly not guilty of
an offence under this act. Technically speaking even under the accepted
definition of Telegraphy, voice communications are exempt (unless they are
specifically defined as wireless telegraphy by the act itself.. an no I
haven't read it end to end!!!)
There is no doubt that Wireless Telegraphy
includes but is not limited to Morse Code transmissions. This definition is
accepted by the entire establishment, the wider radio community and is
enshrined in law.
Where our UK licences refer to Wireless telegraph
(actually I have not found any references to Radio telegraphy)
they mean all forms of radio
communications.
You may consider yourself a good CW operator, you
are probably a better CW operator than I am, but your attitude denies you the
courtesy of being referred to as Professional.
I also did not mention Radio Officers, I said
competent CW operators, though to equate that with professional radio
officers to the exclusion of all others
is as far as I am concerned a rather narrow
minded approach.
I happen to have known a number of
professional Radio Officers, and they wrote down messages that they need to
relay to others, and often don't bother otherwise.
One old gentleman in fact, in his
employment, rarely wrote down the characters he received. He would listen
to CW in German and write it down in English.
By your definition he was not a professional
Radio Officer.
You may write down all you receive but I know
others don't. I don't, and whilst I may not be in the same league as
yourself, I am a good enough CW operator to find that the majority of my QSOs
are actually on CW.
Thankyou for the lively debate, I have enjoyed
it. I apologise if any others consider it a waste of bandwidth.
:<)
Have a happy Christmas, a prosperous New Year and
plenty of DX on your chosen bands and modes
Mark GM4ISM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:36
PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 Khz
modes
Handbook published for Radio Officers and
issued by HM government states clearly what Radiotelegraphy means and
Radiotelephony as far as they are concerned. Take you argument up with them,
they issue the licence (OFCOM))
A professional Radio Officer DOES
write down the messages he/her receives, they are either hand written
or taken on a typewriter to be forwarded to the appropriate destination
person/persons. In some cases the telegraphy message is printed
directly onto a paper tape using an undulator.
Sorry Mark that you happen to be misguided on
so many counts.
De Mal/G3KEV
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:19
PM
Subject: LF: Re: 500 Khz modes
Well said Mal
Telegraphy
Greek
Tele 'far-off' graph
'writing'
Morse code actually is less 'telagraphy' as
the end result does not by default get written (by competent cw
operators at any rate)
Some definitions:-
Concise Oxford English
A system or device for transmitting messages from a distance.
Webster's
1. Communicating at a distance by electric
transmission over wire.
Wikipedia (referred to by
Webster's)
Telegraphy is the long distance transmission of
written messages without physical transport of letters. This definition
includes recent forms of data transmission such as fax, email, and
computer networks in general. (A telegraph is a machine
for transmitting and receiving messages over long distances, i.e. for
telegraphy.)
Radio telegraphy see above but
omit wires
seems to me that the generally accepted use
of the term does not restrict the user to Morse code
I eagerly await the large increase in WSPT
transmissions now that this is cleared up
:<))
Mark GM4ISM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008
1:55 PM
Subject: LF: 500 Khz modes
All MF
To put it briefly WRC07/Radio regulations
5.82A the spectrum between 495 khz and 505 khz permits RADIOTELEGRAPHY
only.
I pointed this out in a previous message.
de Mal/G3KEV
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