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Re: LF: Re: g4ftc

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: g4ftc
From: "James Moritz" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:02:44 +0000
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At 18:52 25/11/2001 +0000, you wrote:
The one thing which I've never seen in any amateur text books is what are
the value of the ground and system losses normally achievable? I know this
is akin to asking how long is a piece of string, but there must be some
typical examples?

73s

David G4FTC

Dear David, LF Group,

From my own investigations and those of others, amateur 136k antenna loss resistance can vary between 10-20 ohms at minimum to as much as a few hundred ohms, so yours appears to be at the upper end of the spectrum. Much bigger, commercial antennas have loss resistances of a few ohms.

The resistance introduced by the actual ground system itself appears not to be the dominant factor in most cases - several people have found that once a certain point has been reached, improving the ground system further makes little difference. The most likely explanation for this seems at the moment to be that most of the antenna resistance is due to dielectric losses in objects in the field close to the antenna, such as buildings, trees, and the ground itself. There seem to be 3 practical approaches to reducing losses:

Increasing antenna height
Increasing the separation from surrounding "lossy" objects
Increasing the amount of top loading.

These three things are obviously interdependent - it is hard to increase the length of top loading wires and at the same time increase separation from other objects, so experimentation to find the best compromise is needed. The most effective measure is to increase height, since this also increases the radiated power for a given antenna current, but there are usually practical restrictions on this.

For example, I was able to reduce losses in my antenna substantially by eliminating the parts of wires closest to the ground, moving the remaining wire away from trees and building, and as a side effect increasing the height slightly because of the reduced sagging in the wire. On the other hand, G3AQC was able to obtain a substantial improvement by increasing the area covered by the top loading wires of his antenna. It seems each individual location will have a unique solution to what is the best antenna to minimise losses.

Good luck with your antenna, and hope to see you on the air soon,

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU



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