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Re: LF: EbNaut tonite

To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut tonite
From: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:20:30 -0500
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Stefan
 
Yes, I was aware of that. It probably would have been a good idea to have defined 'low Rank' ... last night there were a number of decodes well under 250 ... many just double digits. Can't recall that happening in past sessions so thought it was noteworthy. 
 
Jay W1VD
----- Original Message -----
From: DK7FC
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut tonite

Hi Rob, Jay,

You need to select a lower list length if CRC8 is used together with 8 characters.
See http://abelian.org/ebnaut/calc.php?sndb=20&snbws=&snmps=1776&code=8K19&sp=3&crc=8&nc=8&submit=Calculate to calculate the optimum list length. It is 280 for a full phase search. If you keep the default 20000, then a number of false decodes are highly likely.

73, Stefan

Am 23.01.2019 13:31, schrieb Rob Renoud:
Riccardo and Jay,

No decodes here either.  Had a number of low Rank false decodes also.  Suspect the low CRC  may have allowed the false decodes.  I had similar results during the previous run.

Suggest a shorter character message with a higher CRC with a similar duration.  Also, if possible,  suggest transmitting the message on the hour and running an unmodulated carrier during the idle period to enable monitoring with ARGO or a similar app.  I have found this very useful tool with EbNaut transmissions from VO1NA and K3SIW on 2200m and 185.185... kHz (LoFER) respectively.

73,
Rob - K3RWR

On Jan 23, 2019, at 06:17, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

Riccardo
 
Late start last night (0000z). Unfortunately no decodes. There were numerous low Rank false decodes ... not sure what's up with that!
 
Jay W1VD
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Riccardo Zoli <[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
To: LF Group <[email protected]>
Sent: 1/22/2019 2:48:00 PM
Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut tonite


Sorry: message repeated every 30 minutes.

73, Riccardo IW4DXW

Il giorno Mar 22 Gen 2019, 20:15 Riccardo Zoli <[email protected]> ha scritto:

Jay, Rob, LF

QRG 137545 Hz
Coding 8K19A
CRC 8
3 sec./sym.
8 characters
duration 29 min. 36 sec.
no time delay
(1st on 1930 UTC, last on 0700 UTC)

Reports are welcome


All the best

73 de Riccardo IW4DXW



Il giorno Lun 21 Gen 2019, 23:03 <[email protected]> ha scritto:
Riccardo
 
Glad to hear you found the problem. Will await your announcement and look for your signal tomorrow night.
 
Jay W1VD
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut tonite


Jay, Rob, Markus, Stefan, Joe, LF


Jay, thanks again for the decode: congrats for your rx setup.
And thank you so much for trying, Rob.

Here, the TP2 reference signal (not sufficiently filtered) overshot sometimes the quadrature divider (x4) causing that phase jumps. The problem is now fixed.

A new TX EbNaut session is scheduled for starting tomorrow evening.

All the best


73 de Riccardo IW4DXW







Il giorno Lun 21 Gen 2019, 13:20 [email protected] <[email protected]> ha scritto:
Riccardo
 
Corrected decode:
 
0300 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 2.3 Eb/N0 1.4 FBDECODE
 
Jay W1VD
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Sent: 1/21/2019 6:53:39 AM
Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut tonite

Stefan, Riccardo & EbNaut-eers
 
 
Stefan ... good copy throughout the night. Riccardo ... unfortunately only one decode to report. Markus noted a frequency error ... curious if propagation or NE0-M8T?
 
 
137545
 
2200 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 9.5 Eb/N0 9.2 RADIO GAGA
2300 -
0000 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 9.2 Eb/N0 9.3 RADIO GAGA
0100 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 6.0 Eb/N0 6.0 RADIO GAGA
0200 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 5.3 Eb/N0 5.9 RADIO GAGA
0300 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 6.1 Eb/N0 6.8 RADIO GAGA
0400 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 11.3 Eb/N0 10.4 RADIO GAGA
0500 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 3.7 Eb/N0 4.6 RADIO GAGA
0600 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 10.6 Eb/N0 10.2 RADIO GAGA
 
 
137547
 
0300 Rank 0 car Eb/N0 10.0 Eb/N0  FBDECODE
 
Jay W1VD
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: DK7FC <[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Sent: 1/20/2019 12:48:34 PM
Subject: LF: EbNaut tonite

LF,

Tonite:

f = 137.545 kHz
Start time: 20.JAN.2019  22:00:00.3 UTC (hourly, including 6 UTC)
Symbol period: 1 s
Characters: 10
CRC bits: 12
Coding 16K21A
Antenna current: 4 A
Duration: 24:32 [mm:ss]



73, Stefan
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