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Re: VLF: Back on 5.17 kHz / 58 km...

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Subject: Re: VLF: Back on 5.17 kHz / 58 km...
From: DK7FC <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 22:47:02 +0100
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PS: Was the message decodable in Italy as well? Would be interesting to see if Renato got it too. I don't want to cause to much work to you, so only check it if you like. I don't even know how much effort that makes. Maybe you have a Linux script for each task and this question means just typing a single command line(?).
73, Stefan

Am 06.01.2017 22:17, schrieb DK7FC:
Hi Paul,

The errors in the 0 0 0 0  error map look quite equally spread.
How much weaker is the average night signal relative to the day signal? If the difference is not much, it would be worth to use the nights as well.
I got the feedback that the message was not decodable on the other
station, unfortunately. So maybe the plain carrier which is running
since 12 UTC is more helpful. It is already visible in Italy again:
Now, what was the message? :-)

My signal looks terrible on the tree grabber. I still don't know the reason. Is it the TX or the RX? The TX PC is very old. I thought it could be a temporary overloaded USB port (WLAN + USB soundcard), so i tried a LAN connection instead, with no change. Another thing could be partial discharges in the coil arrangement! So i reduced the antenna current from 21 UTC to 21:30 UTC from 225 mA to 210 mA. So far there is no significant change. At 21:30 i will go down to 180 mA. If this makes no difference i will go back to 225 mA again at 22 UTC. I will run the carrier until tomorrow evening. Then i may have a new idea what we could do next, on 58 km.
The next 2.97 kHz experiment is a bit delayed but the coil is ready
for 150 mA. They say the wx will be terrible in the next days but as
soon as there are a few good days, i will be back on 101 km...
73, Stefan

Am 06.01.2017 12:33, schrieb Paul Nicholson:
Stefan wrote:

> f = 5170.000000 Hz
> Start time: 04.Jan.2017   08:00:00 UTC
> Symbol length: 60 s
> Characters: 8
> CRC 16
> Coding 16K25A

> I will repeat the transmission starting [5th] 8 UTC...

Best decode with reference phase pattern: 30 30 0 0

Eb/N0 = +3.6 dB,   BER 35.0%, list rank 0.

S/N 20.24 dB in 11.8 uHz,  -63.0dB in 2.5kHz

The phase pattern is appropriate for an advance of the
signal phase during day relative to night.

Symbol error map (with 30 30 0 0 pattern):

and with constant reference (0 0 0 0 pattern)

Not much difference, 500/1408 symbol errors with constant
reference.  Down to 493/1408 with 30 30 0 0 pattern.

I haven't mentioned the message text because it's possible someone
else may be trying a decode.

> that  makes a fine record of 5.17 kHz successes
> between the two of you!

Indeed, 5170Hz seems to be quite a cooperative band to use.

Paul Nicholson

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