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Re: LF: RE: JT9 actvity...

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Subject: Re: LF: RE: JT9 actvity...
From: ZL2AFP <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 11:46:07 +1300
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25 watts EIRP allowed here in New Zealand, but that is because we are a long way from anywhere!

73
Con, ZL2AFP

On 11/01/2016 4:36 a.m., Rik Strobbe wrote:

Hi Markus,

 

not everywhere!

 

The outcome of WRC-12 was:

"The maximum equivalent isotropically radiated power (e.i.r.p.) of stations in the amateur service using frequencies in the band 472-479 kHz shall not exceed 1 W. Administrations may increase this limit of e.i.r.p. to 5 W in portions of their territory which are at a distance of over 800 km from the borders of Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus, China, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, United Arab Emirates, the Russian Federation, Iran (Islamic Republic of), Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Mauritania, Oman, Uzbekistan, Qatar, Syrian Arab Republic, Kyrgyzstan, Somalia, Sudan, Tunisia, Ukraine and Yemen. In this frequency band, stations in the amateur service shall not cause harmful interference to, or claim protection from, stations of the aeronautical radionavigation service."

 

In Belgium the power limit is 5W EIRP (3 W ERP), I believe this is also the case in the Netherland, UK and Ireland.

 

But you are right about the saturation. With the right antenna (height) it is easy to produce many 10's W ERP with a few 100W TX power.

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

 


Van: [email protected] [[email protected]] namens Markus Vester [[email protected]]
Verzonden: zondag 10 januari 2016 16:03
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: JT9 actvity...

 
Note however that the power scale saturates at 1 W ERP, which is (by definition) the largest power an amateur can possibly radiate on LF and MF ;-)
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

 
-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Rik Strobbe <[email protected]>
An: rsgb_lf_group <[email protected]>
Verschickt: So, 10 Jan 2016 3:42 pm
Betreff: LF: RE: JT9 actvity...
Hello Szigy, 

regarding the declared power level in WSPR: Most stations declare their ERP, not  

PA output. 

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T 

 

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Van: [email protected] [[email protected]]  

namens Szigy [[email protected]] 

Verzonden: zaterdag 9 januari 2016 20:22 

Aan: [email protected] 

Onderwerp: LF: JT9 actvity... 

 

From: YO2IS 

 Hello from KN05ps, 

was pleased to take part in the 8 ian JT9 activity. 

 Lot of signals received, propagation was similar to 2m Es ! 

very short openings from unexpected QTF's. 

 Nice QSO with DG3LV in JO53, IZ7SLZ responded to my CQ he was 

a solid -23 then nil. Received again OR7T -27, we had a nice 

QSO a day before, also wkd DC1RJJ who responded to my CQ !!. 

 CWNR, several times IW4DXW up to -24 and DF7FC -20 he often is 

reporting my WSPR-2 nil in JT9... 

 My TVRT / IRF540 had only 20 W out into the 41m sloping wire. 

it seems that the IC-7000 is not as bad for reception on LF / MF. 

 Surprised also by the  WSPR-2 results, litle confused with the 

received signal levels versus de declared power dBm! are real ?... 

 Enjoy the good winter conditions. 

   73 & DX, Szigy.ÿþ?ÿþ? 




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