Ok Luis ,
Are you running op32/477 tonight ? many of the stations had not changed
over ..
-41 Db dynamic spot, your still running TOO much power, need to
drop -6 dB to test OP32 Dynamic to the limit :)
But may be tonight, leave the power and , If UK stations select op32 ,
may get a DX spot ?
Nice going !
73-G,
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From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 9:36 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Hi Graham, MF
1mW on MF antenna. Ultimate QRPPP TEST PASSED !!
Opera 32 proved better gain and I have got 3 spots from Iban EB3FRN
tonight
03:49 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 Deep Search 297 km -41 dB in MONTBRIO
1527.8 Hz
03:44 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 km -8 dB F:0% in OP32 mode over
477KHz 1523,9 Hz
03:16 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 Deep Search 297 km -42 dB in MONTBRIO
1527.8 Hz
03:12 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 km -8 dB F:0% in OP32 mode over
477KHz 1523,9 Hz
01:38 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 Deep Search 297 km -42 dB in MONTBRIO
1528.0 Hz
01:34 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 km -8 dB F:1% in OP32 mode over
477KHz 1524,0 Hz
Transmissions were on 477 not 136KHz. Deep serach spots matched with my
own spots on my
monitor at 7Km
The only remaining question is .....which was the ERP ??? :-O
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________________
De: [email protected]
[[email protected]] en nombre de Graham
[[email protected]]
Enviado: domingo, 6 de diciembre de 2015 23:03
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
That was quick Luis !
Your in the deep list on 136 , so that helps ! , may of been a bit
late tonight , but see who qsy's -
can send out all user using the chat as well ,
73-G,
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From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 9:49 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Hi Graham. Good idea ! :-)
But probably lack of Rx stations
I'm already transmitting OP32 over 477 dial USB. Continous periods and no
WSPR
Let's gain those 10dB ! ;-)
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________________
De: [email protected]
[[email protected]] en nombre de Graham
[[email protected]]
Enviado: domingo, 6 de diciembre de 2015 22:27
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Ok Luis ,
Yes, using G8HUH as the reference , 0dBm was going to be more chance
than expectation ... Very long skip at the moment.
Could try, dropping down to OP32 ???
Same dial set , that would put another +10 db in the cct % fade has
shown, should be able to 'view' at least 40% of the Tx along the
time
line...Sets are now quite stable , well inside the 1 or 2 Hz drift
Would need a few emails to set the Rx group up ..as decodes will
show
as 136
73-G,
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From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 8:59 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Hi Graham, MF
It has been a great difference from 5mW to 1mW. May be the limit to get
just an occasional decode
in Opera Deel Search by close stations as EB3FRN just be around 3mW on
antenna
I don't have the right attenuator at hand right now, so will keep at 1mW
tonight
Conditions looks good. Lot of activity in WSPR and long Dx across north
atlantic and to Reunion
Good luck to the chasers ! ;-)
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________________
De: [email protected]
[[email protected]] en nombre de Graham
[[email protected]]
Enviado: domingo, 6 de diciembre de 2015 17:25
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
1 mW Test still running
16:22 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi -9 dB F:1%_End in Albir 1519,0 Hz
with 1mw + Vert 11+80m
G,
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From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 6:11 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Hi Graham, MF
Running 1mW to antenna at the moment. Measured 0,228V RMS over 50Ohm
A 20dB attenuator from U3 to antenna
Reports on WSPR dropped to -4dB on my monitor
Opera reports from -3dB went to -8dB. So will be very unlike to recive
even Deep Search reports
Can't modify the Tx QRG so often, so will be fixed and let see what
happens
Good luck
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
_____________________________________
De: [email protected]
[[email protected]] en nombre de Graham
[[email protected]]
Enviado: sábado, 5 de diciembre de 2015 14:51
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Yes Luis ,
Its amazing how coherent random chance can be !
Watched with interest last night, had to drop the wires at 0100 when
the
storm blew in, it was from the SW which is 'ok' for me , W is the
killer, but better to take the weight off the system, the top
loading
coil adds to the drag , though in saying that , its amazing how
much
windage the 2 inch tube collects !
Try the final run at 0dB , if the conditions hold or pick up ,
G8HUH
might catch you , but a this level , its all in the lap of
Gods
,
or Laurence's Pesky Protons , you have to achieve 40% of the
transmission, the average being = minimum detection set level, at
the
application.
Don't forget , Opera decodes , Dynamic detects ,
The local off air decode is working well , you could jump the
frequency
[ 5 or 10 Hz] at every tx/rx change over , The system is 'single
pass'
, that may or may not , add or subtract from the final results,
depending if qrm is +/- on the new qrg . The frequency is only
for
cross checking , plays no part in the detection or validation. The
system will validate against your local time stamp, with frequency
available as well as reference.
Traffic is low , so that might give you a edge ?
GL for tonight
73-Graham.
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From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 9:41 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Real dynamic decoces Graham. Perfect synchroniztion and frequency
measurement :-)
At least 7 Opera decodes from Iban EB3FRN, like the last one right now
in
"crude" daylight
09:35 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search 297 km -36 dB in
MONTBRIO
1522.9 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m
Two more Opera decodes from G8HUH, before midnight
22:23 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 1430 km -36 dB in
Somerset
1520.8 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m
20:11 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 1430 km -35 dB in
Somerset
1520.5 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m
And in WSPR the only decodes were from Maxi, EA5CV at 60Km from -28
to -30dB
What's next ?? Down another 3dB or directly to 0dBm ?? :-O
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________________
De: [email protected]
[[email protected]] en nombre de Graham
[[email protected]]
Enviado: sábado, 5 de diciembre de 2015 1:23
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
One more , may of clashed as well Luis ?
22:23 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 889 mi -36 dB in Somerset
1520.8 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m
22:22 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi -4 dB F:1%_End in Albir 1519,0
Hz
with 5mw + Vert 11+80m
G,
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 10:02 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Ok Luis ,
Yes , both of these are missing the '??' so the Job's a good-un
as
they say NE of this location : )
Band seems to be in good condition tonight
G3XKR is now running the latest version , so that gives you
another 5/6 dB gain )
73-G,
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From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 9:21 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Hi Graham, MF
Hard to believe, but true ! :-O
Iban EB3FRN and G8HUH spotting me on Opera Deep Search with only 5mW
on
antenna
Specially G8HUH at 1430Km, just one minute after my own spot on
monitor
due to Deep Search delay
20:11 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 1430 km -35 dB in
Somerset
1520.5 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m
20:10 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km -5 dB F:1%_End in Albir
1519,0
Hz
with 5mw + Vert 11+80m
G3XKR is also in the party. Let's see if he can spot me too
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________________
De: [email protected]
[[email protected]] en nombre de Graham
[[email protected]]
Enviado: viernes, 4 de diciembre de 2015 21:27
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Better )
20:11 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 889 mi -35 dB in
Somerset
1520.5 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m
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From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 7:43 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Good start Luis .. There is a path to night !
73-G,
19:35 477 G8HUH de EA5DOM Op8 889 mi -23 dB F:20% in Albir
1459,0
Hz
19:35 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search 185 mi -36 dB in
MONTBRIO
1523.2 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m
--------------------------------------------------
From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 10:20 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Done
Added another 3dB atenuator to the already in use 10dB
From the 20dBm output of U3 to 520mV over 50Ohm -> 5mW to the
antenna
(NOT ERP)
Power message changed in WSPR and Opera
Reports down 1 to 2dB in my monitor. We are really on the "dummy
limit"
right now
PS: The level of power were a MF antenna radiates as good as a
dummy
load
;-)
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
-----Mensaje original-----
De: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de VIGILANT
Luis
Fernández
Enviado el: viernes, 04 de diciembre de 2015 9:00
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Hi Graham, MF
That was just when I went to bed !
-36dB Dynamic decode in Opera. But there was also a G8HUH decode
in
WSPR
with an amazing -17dB !!
2015-12-04 02:12 EA5DOM 0.475609 -17 0 IM98wn 0.01 G8HUH IO81mg
1430
352
Single spot from Maxi, EA5CV at 60Km
2015-12-04 06:24 EA5DOM 0.475612 -31 0 IM98wn 0.01 EA5CV IM98ol 59
261
I'm going to add 3dB attenuation. Let's see if it is possible with
5mW
on
antenna (not 5mW ERP) ;-)
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________________
De: [email protected]
[[email protected]] en nombre de Graham
[[email protected]]
Enviado: viernes, 4 de diciembre de 2015 1:17
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Luis ..
22:47 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 889 mi -36 dB in
Somerset
1520.8 Hz with 0.01w + Vert 11+80m
G,
--------------------------------------------------
From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 8:40 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Hi Graham, MF
Much worse conditions last night. I even checked the RMS voltage
over
50R load to see if the attenuator was not working correctly, but
there
were the 11mW
Only two WSPR spots from Andy at limit
2015-12-02 23:24 EA5DOM 0.475610 -32 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht
919
4
2015-12-02 21:24 EA5DOM 0.475610 -30 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht
919
4
I saw the report from G3XKR on PskReporter but nothing via Opera
server Probably due to the old software version used by G3XKR ??
Anyway VERY good Rx there ! :-)
Will keep at 11mW for the moment
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
-----Mensaje original-----
De: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de Graham
Enviado el: jueves, 03 de diciembre de 2015 1:12
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Rx at Wed, 02 Dec 2015 21:46:11 GMT
From EA5DOM by G3XKR Loc IO70UX
Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -31dB
Distance: 1418 km bearing 348°
Using: Opera v1.5.4/Rptr V1.6
Antenna: RX Op8
V 1-5-4 pre dynamic ?
73-G,
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From: "Tony Baldwin" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:25 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
I'm on 477 opera as well as 474.2 WSPR I shall leave it
monitoring
both all night 73, Tony, EI8JK
On 02-Dec-15 19:08, Graham wrote:
Still big signals Luis !
We know from the Vampire tests , what should happen, but ,
there
is
no
accurate way of telling who is actually running Rx on 477
now,
since the psk-map changed the housekeeping routines ...
Im Rx 477 at the moment , only see your local decode's
at
the
moment
73-G,
--------------------------------------------------
From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:51 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
No more DX last night at 11mW
One spot from F5WK and many more from Andy F1AFJ
Maxi, EA5CV got a few at -28dB and being just 60Km away but
with
a
sub optimal Rx No other EA station got copy
No Opera spots. Monitors were too far, probably
There were few TA spots across north atlantic. So, conditions
were
not bad Will keep Txing at this power level untill finishing
the
PA
install at terrace
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________________
De: [email protected]
[[email protected]] en nombre de VIGILANT
Luis
Fernández [[email protected]]
Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 23:11
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Wellcome to the 11mW challenge, Clemens :-)
F5WK joined the party with just one spot but breaking the
distance
mark to 1192km
2015-12-01 20:24 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0
IM98wn
0.01 F5WK IN99ef 1192 355
Andy has 8 spots so far. And one as good as -20dB !!
2015-12-01 21:36 EA5DOM 0.475610 -20 0
IM98wn
0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht 919 4
You are at 1515Km. A real edge for such a weak signal ??
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________________
De: [email protected]
[[email protected]] en nombre de Clemens Paul
[[email protected]]
Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 22:54
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Hello Luis,
I wonder if there is al least 1mW ERP out ! Still a lot of
room
for Opera Deep Search spots
Any other taker ?
I'll give it a try tonight.
RX and WSPR are running now.
I know I can compete with DH5RAE and DJ0ABR regarding WSPR
spots
(RX-wise).
I'm also quite out in the sticks...
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
VIGILANT
Luis Fernández
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Wow. We have a winner
Congratulations Andy ! Fantastic spots -25dB using only 11mW
here
2015-12-01 19:36 EA5DOM 0.475610 -25
0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht
919 4
2015-12-01 19:24 EA5DOM 0.475610 -25
0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht
919 4
I wonder if there is al least 1mW ERP out ! Still a lot of
room
for Opera Deep Search spots
Any other taker ?
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________
De: [email protected]
[[email protected]] en nombre de VIGILANT
Luis
Fernández [[email protected]]
Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 16:23
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
OK Graham, there we are ! ;-)
0,742V RMS over 50Ohm. That's 11mW
Can see 1dB down in my WSPR monitor at 7Km. Reports from
EA5CV
which were about -25dB are nill now
Really challenging for me and for RX stations. Probably will
get
some spots from EA5CV and EA2HB during the night, but for
>1000Km
paths it will be very hard, depending on propagation
conditions
and noise floor
WSPR power message set to 10dBm and Opera info changed to
0,01w
Make your bet ! ;-)
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________
De: [email protected]
[[email protected]] en nombre de Graham
[[email protected]]
Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 14:26
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Getting there Luis !
Your 6 dB in hand with G3XKR , may be more with G8HUH ,
Go for the big 1-0 TEN mW , the stats are not good
,
you need to get a peak aligned with the qsb , but with
8%
fade , but, signal must be holding up ...
73-G,
From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:23 AM
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Hi MF
Yet some remarkable results with 51mW. May be propagation
conditions lowered extra dBs
Anyway, in Opera got a -30dB decode from G3XKR and Deep
Search
-37dB from SV8CS-5 at 1819Km
00:34 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +0 dB F:1%_End in
Albir
1519,0 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m
00:34 477 EA5DOM de G3XKR Op8 -30 dB F:8% in BIDEFORD
Devon
01:47 477 EA5DOM de SV8CS-5 Op8 Deep Search 1819 km -37 dB
in Zakynthos 1519.5 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m
01:46 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +1 dB F:2% in Albir
1519,0 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m
In WSPR best distance and SNR spots from:
2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -27
0 IM98wn 0.02 DH5RAE JN68qv
1576 39
2015-11-30 22:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -29
0 IM98wn 0.02 DJ0ABR JN68nt
1556 39
2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30
0 IM98wn 0.02 G3XKR IO70ux
1419 348
2015-11-30 23:12 EA5DOM 0.475608 -22
0 IM98wn 0.02 F5WK IN99ef 1192
355
Should I get down another 3dB to 25mW and still spotted by
F5WK
??
:-O
Congratulations to all this stations for their superb RX !
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________
De: [email protected]
[[email protected]] en nombre de VIGILANT
Luis
Fernández [[email protected]]
Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 21:03
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Let's go step by step
3db down now: 1,60V RMS 51mW
Same signals on my monitor and some drop on F5WK and EA5CV
reports
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________
De: [email protected]
[[email protected]] en nombre de Graham
[[email protected]]
Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 19:14
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
.. May be 10 dB at least !
G,
From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:53 PM
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Hi Graham, MF
Yes. The efficiency of this antenna setup is really
outstanding
:-O I can clearly see the signal on my monitor waterfall at
7Km
when injecting -33dBm
Just at sunset between EA and DL I got two WSPR decodes from
DH5RAE and DJ0ABR
2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29
0 IM98wn 0.05 DJ0ABR JN68nt
1556 39
2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475614 -22
0 IM98wn 0.05 EA5CV IM98ol
59 261
2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -31
0 IM98wn 0.05 DH5RAE JN68qv
1576 39
I have the 3dB atenuator ready to be installed. Will do it
when
I
get home in a couple of hours and will change the WSPR tx
power
indicator and Opera info to notice the change
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________
De: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de
Graham
Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 18:13
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Luis
That's just 'a silly , -18 dB with G8HUH , I thought
you where running QRP, that's close to 20 dB QRO jiji
73-G,
From EA5DOM by G8HUH Loc IO81MG
Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -18dB
All OP8 decodes from psk-map
EA5DOM <https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html#> SO5AS
<https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html#> 600m OPERA
2210 km 18:10:11
EA5DOM <https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html#>
SV8CS-5 <https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html#> 600m
OPERA 1820 km 18:46:12
SV8CS <https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html#> EA5DOM
<https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html#> 600m OPERA
1819 km 19:20:11
EA5DOM <https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html#> EI8JK
<https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html#> 600m OPERA
1633 km 18:46:12
EA5DOM <https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html#> G8HUH
<https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html#> 600m OPERA
1430 km 18:22:12
EA5DOM <https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html#> G3XKR
<https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html#> 600m OPERA
1420 km 23:10:11
From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:48 AM
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Thank you Tony
That explains the radical propagation change ! :-)
Thank you for keeping your monitor working
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
________________________________
De: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de Tony
Baldwin Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 9:34
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment
Luis, I switched my radio off last night at about 23:30 utc.
I will leave it running opera all night tonight if you want
to
try
different power levels again.
73, Tony, EI8JK
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