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Re: LF: OPdynamic false T/A spot

from [Graham] [Permanent Link][Original]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: OPdynamic false T/A spot
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 00:02:38 -0000
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Jay
R7NT , uploaded two spots , one at -42 , the other at -43 , with the same time stamp . this must of come from running two sessions of opera from the same audio feed , or one of the sessions had not closed from a previous use, ghost app , two calls , same time would be validated
If opera is fed from the same noise source , the out put will be the same , so this effectively produced a false double detection 

G,



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From: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:58 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: OPdynamic false T/A spot
Yes, we're all aware that the spots are not checked. The problem is PSK Reporter apparently has no way to present the ?? from an OPdynamic spot. Since the ?? are not there, the ?? spots look exactly the same as real spots. This is a serious problem as there is no way to tell the difference! OPdynamic spots should not be unploaded to PSK Reporter until this problem is corrected. Until it's corrected all OP reports obtained from PSK Reporter should be viewed with a great deal of skepticism.
I have no clue as to the point you're trying to get across in the rest of your post. It doesn't appear relevant to the bigger problem outlined above. 

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" <[email protected]> 
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: LF: OPdynamic false T/A spot



over 10 hours since the
transmitter was last on

Could  of  been  long path ?
Unfortunately , as in any mode , the uploads to the psk-map are not 
checked ,

There  is  something  odd  about the  15-07  spot  as   one  is  -42  and
the other -43 , must be x2 opera running with the same audio feed , 
as there  are   x 2  spots  from the  same call
X 2 Opera with same audio feed will produce the same results . in this case the system has x2 the same call from the same station , so looks to be real, 
un expected  condition  , out  side the  operating  envelope

73-G,

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From: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 3:59 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: OPdynamic false T/A spot
According to PSK reporter I now have a spot from R7NT as of 1507 UTC ... over 10 hours since the transmitter was last on ... and in broad daylight! 
Reports generated by PSK reporter do not show ?? ... they appear an any
normal spot and might be accepted as such. I, and other folks,  don't
leave OP software running 24/7 so how are we to know the spots shown on
PSK reporter are real or not? I would say OPdynamic spots should not be
forwarded to PSK reporter.

Maybe I can apply for an award ... most spots collected without the
transmitter even being turned on! ;~)

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" <[email protected]> 
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: LF: OPdynamic false T/A spot



Jay,

-25  over 1000 Miles ,  nice  going  !

Another  1 dB  [ish]  would  of  triggered  the  opera  decoder with
Mike.. 4 min lag  is spot-on
SP5 is 100% random , will of been flagged '??' on the opera 
listing

73-G,




sNR mode MHz rxTime senderCallsign senderLocator
receiverCallsignreceiverLocator receiverAntennaInformation submode OPERA 
0.136 01/02/2015 01:05 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every
00:00 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 01:22 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon
Op32 every 00:00 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 01:42 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS 
Beacon Op32 every 00:00-17 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 01:45 WD2XNS FN31LS
KA9CFD EN40OM RX Op326 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 01:45 WD2XNS FN31LS W1TAG
FN42CH RX Op32 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:00 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS
Beacon Op32 every 00:00 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:18 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS 
FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00-23 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:18 WD2XNS
FN31LS KA9CFD EN40OM RX Op325 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:18 WD2XNS FN31LS 
W1TAG FN42CH RX Op32 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:38 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS
FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00-27 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:51 WD2XNS
FN31LS KA9CFD EN40OM RX Op326 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:51 WD2XNS FN31LS 
W1TAG FN42CH RX Op32 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 02:55 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS
FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:15 WD2XNS FN31LS 
WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00-23 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:24
WD2XNS FN31LS KA9CFD EN40OM RX Op326 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:24 WD2XNS 
FN31LS W1TAG FN42CH RX Op32 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:33 WD2XNS FN31LS
WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:53 WD2XNS 
FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:005 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015
03:56 WD2XNS FN31LS W1TAG FN42CH RX Op32-25 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:56 
WD2XNS FN31LS KA9CFD EN40OM RX Op32-31 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 03:56
WD2XNS FN31LS K3SIW-2 EN52TA RX Op32 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 04:11 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 04:29 
WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00-27 OPERA 0.136
01/02/2015 04:29 WD2XNS FN31LS K3SIW-2 EN52TA RX Op325 OPERA 0.136
01/02/2015 04:29 WD2XNS FN31LS W1TAG FN42CH RX Op32 OPERA 0.136
01/02/2015 04:49 WD2XNS FN31LS WD2XNS FN31LS Beacon Op32 every 00:00-22
OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 05:02 WD2XNS FN31LS K3SIW-2 EN52TA RX Op326 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 05:02 WD2XNS FN31LS W1TAG FN42CH RX Op32-43 OPERA 0.136 
01/02/2015 05:06 WD2XNS FN31LS G3XDV IO91VT Op32_||||_~36dB
--FALSE---43 OPERA 0.136 01/02/2015 07:30 WD2XNS FN31LS SP5XSB KO02LD RX 
Op32--------------------------------------------------
From: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 1:56 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: LF: OPdynamic false T/A spot
In checking last night's spots for WD2XNS ... the spot by SP5XSB occured 
after the WD2XNS transmitter had been off for over two hours. Please
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