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Re: LF: Re: Schumann in my garden, final circuit design

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 22:19:19 +0100
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Another thought: Could it be the frequency of an old monitor running 60Hz frequency for the screen? Wolf already sentioned something... It was a matter of frequency stability that gives the proof, if i remember...
I like to watch that propagation on 5000 km wave length. You said +-2...3 dB between daytime and nighttime. I find 3 dB is quite much and will show clearly on the screen!
Time for my remote grabber...

73, Stefan

Am 26.10.2014 01:32, schrieb Markus Vester:
Hi Stefan,
very nice result! Your spectrogram also contains 60 Hz from America, not too conspicuous but easily visible with a little visual averaging.
 73, Markus (DF6NM)

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Hi ELF friends,

Just for those who are interested...
I have now finished my modifications to the ELF RX / preamp design for a long wire (E field) antenna. This is the final schematic Despite the low frequency, it is improtant to use goos shielding in a metallic box. This is how it looks here:

I've been in the garden today again and recorded the ELF spectrum (file: (584 MB)). Unfortunately ZEVS was off the air during that time but i got SNR of  Schumann resonances again and very low man made noise and design noise. Spectrogram:

Soon i will do another attempt to trynsmit in the ELF range to detect my signal in 2.4 km distance...

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 07.10.2014 00:37, schrieb DK7FC:
Hi ELF friends,

Now the circuit is in a box:

I measured the resistance against ground (which should be infinity!) with an old Rohde & Schwarz tube multimeter, maybe from the 1960s. It can measure R up to 3 G Ohm.  Positive results, no change of the displayed R if i connect the D.U.T.
I think Ha-Jo DJ1ZB may know the multimeter from his early days :-) Image:

New measurements tomorrow...

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 06.10.2014 22:29, schrieb DK7FC:
Hi Edgar,

Of course you were right.
I thought i don't need a completely shielded box because i am in the garden and there is no electricity.
But, the gate of the FET is quasi-floating and there is always some stray-C between the antenna wire and that gate.
Even 0.1 pF coupling C and 100 MOhm means a HPF cut off near 16 kHz !! I run a test, disconnecting the antenna from the preamp and placed the end of the wire in 0.2m distance. The SNR of DHO38 on 23.4 kHz was 30 dB, despite connected circuitry (diodes, filter, stray-C to ground).
Now i will again move the circuit, into a shielded box :-)
More results tomorrow.
Nice stuff to play with! Still some warm autumn days here...

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 06.10.2014 00:51, schrieb edgar:
Hi Stefan,

I suggest that you cover the LPF and FET with a piece of tin to stop any external signals entering the circuit after the LPF.

A thin piece of metal from coffee tin or similar food container can be bent in a U shape to cover the components and then soldered at a few points to the copper ground plane.

Just leave a small clearance holes at the ends for the wires to pass through.

Regards, Edgar
Moonah, Tasmania.

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