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Re: LF: WSPR and OPERA test 474.2 dial

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Subject: Re: LF: WSPR and OPERA test 474.2 dial
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:58:33 +0100
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''So I am still looking for WSPR2 to disappear into the noise and OP8 to produce reports''.

That's   exactly  what  happened ! :)

OP8 has a lower decode threshold that wspr-2 and provides functionality in higher noise levels , ie after dark static , as can be seen from the two decodes at -33 and -32 dB

I took one wspr-2 and 3 x OP8 decode from you , the only wspr-2 decode , at 16:40 / 16:38

Wspr reported peak s/n of -31 dB , Opera 8 gave a average level of -32 dB , with fade / loss of 12% of signal This would suggest , the path was reasonably constant and was in 100% daylight at that time.

Two further OP8 decodes occurred at 17:06 and 17:38 going into darkness , no other low level decodes Op8 or wspr occurred , and at around 20:30 z I reverted to 477 KHz .

Dont forget , these are two totally different systems , one is 4FSK time division system , the other Manchester coded OOK Opera is in use from Lf to 10 GHz , with the same bit pattern , just the time and dsp parameters are changed to match the requirements, ''as versatile as a egg'' as the advert used to say..

73-Graham
G0NBD



As our  North  Mediterranean VHF  users  find ...using  Op05  on 2 meters

Crazy gang rise again ! ;-)

EA9MH   I1PSC   2m      OPERA   1439 km 20:19:53

Today we have an unusual link from EB5EA in north Valencia to EA9MH in Melilla crossing a landa path
full of >1500m mountains. Not usual !


474.2  Test  results  as  viewed  from  Io83LK

2014-10-07 16:40 G3ZJO 0.475728 -31 0 IO92ng 0.001 G0NBD  IO83lk 195 313


17:38    477 G3ZJO Op8 -32 dB
 |--------------- ------------------------- --------- ------------------ -----
-     ----- - -- ---- ------- -----  ------| Fade: 13%
17:06    477 G3ZJO Op8 -33 dB
 |-- ----------------------- ------------------- ----------  --- - ----- 
--------
- ----------- ------- -- ------------ -| Fade: 12%
16:38    477 G3ZJO Op8 -32 dB
------ ----- ------------ -------       --     ------------------- 
-----------------------------
------ ------------- | Fade: 15%








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From: "g3zjo" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 12:20 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR and OPERA test 474.2 dial

On 06/10/2014 15:23, Gary - G4WGT wrote:
When are you starting your tests ??

I have set up at this end.

Hello Gary / LF

Gary you got the 11:08 Opera8 transmission then.:-)

I have put the 10W PA on now for a further period of test, OP8 v WSPR2. Results so far using QRPp show the same as my tests in 2012. Op8 shows higher noise reports than WSPR2, both modes drop out at the same level, OP8 takes four times as long to do it.

So I am still looking for WSPR2 to disappear into the noise and OP8 to produce reports.

73 Eddie G3ZJO


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