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Re: LF: Radio signals

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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:32:17 +0100
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Hmmm! Interesting one. I have always assumed that the first point at which the signal(s) caused the electromagnetic field(s) to develop into voltages/currents and might then be subject to further processing occurred at the connection to the antenna or feeder. From that assumption would follow the surmise that Luxembourg/Gorky or other effects would result from the phase etc. relationships at that point and then perhaps be followed by 'distortions' etc. in non-linear stages. This thought follows from the concept that there is 'nothing' going on until the radiated field(s) of RF energy excite current flow in the antenna thus giving rise to voltages at the receiver input. Maybe this is simplistic but it is how I have understood it for more than 55 years.

73

On 11/09/13 10:55, Alan Melia wrote:
Hi Edgar.......Or if the receiver is operating in a linear mode.....then straight addition, but probably only with SSB detection, an AM demodulater diode is non-linear :-))
If you add the signals coming from the same transmitter but over slightly different paths which alters the phase at the receiver, you get fading but this is only obvious is one or both path lengths changes.
 
Alan
G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
From: M0FMT
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Radio signals

Hi
 
Non linearity in the first RX stage? Caused by a fault in the stage or over driving of the stage.Or some very bad corrosion in the joints of the antenna leads. etc etc. Check your RX,  try fitting an attenuator in the antenna lead or shorten your antenna.
 
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX

From: edgar <[email protected]>
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Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2013, 6:03
Subject: LF: Radio signals

Hi Group,

What is the mechanism for the way radio signals combine in the air?

For example

1.There are two transmitters each sending out the same fixed frequency
sine wave signal.

2. There are no other signals in space, and no background noise.

3. There are no propagation factors modifying the signals.

e.g. buildings, ionosphere layers.

4. Both transmitters are the same distance from the receiver.

5. Both signals have the same polarisation.

How have the signals combined when they reach a receiving antenna at a
reasonable distance from both transmitters?

It the process addition, multiplication or some other process?

Regards, Edgar
Moonah, Tasmania.










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