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Re: LF: 630m Narrow Keyboard Mode

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Subject: Re: LF: 630m Narrow Keyboard Mode
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:25:23 -0000
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Stefan,
 
 ''not over the long and deep QSB of course''.

Unless 'of course'  the  modes was  profiled for  MF usage , in which case  the  interleaving  is  long enough to  ride out the  qsb ,
 
long  interleave  and  low s/n , but  at the  loss  of  speed are  the  only suitable modes for  mf conditions ,  in terms of  message handling , packet  like  systems   can make good use of the  qsb  ....  good  results  have been  obtained using  fldigi  and the  'email system' where  a message  was  'delivered to'  a  distant  station , the  problem  being , that  each station has to  be  in range of each other
 
ax25l Packet , where  connects  can be  made via  other  stations  , would  work  quite  nicely , im sure this  was tried , long ago , but  I note multi-psk has  a  100  baud  packet  option ,  also  psk  option  , but that  would have  limited  access to  mf
 
What  would  the  route  be  to  you  from  here  some thing  like ?
 
C dk7fk  via  g4wgt , g3kev  
 
C  dk7fc  via  g3xiz  , [ some  one east  coast]  pa0a  
 
73-G.

Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 630m Narrow Keyboard Mode

Eddie,

Am 13.03.2013 21:29, schrieb g3zjo:
If I am around using GMFSK I will be on 476.100. Getting more people interested so that there is a possibility of random QSO's, err, I will leave that to you.
OK, i will follow the thread.

It could be useful to find a mode that allows 2 way communication in summer, when the QRN crashes make CW operation not a pleasure. Just a thought...
Ah yes, and the FEC stuff could help to jump over the QRN crashes, not over the long and deep QSB of course.

73, Stefan




73 Eddie

P.S. Mal, yes missing him already.

PPS. I had my first QRSS3 QSO today with G4AYT 167Km daytime path, not random though.



On 13/03/2013 14:53, Stefan Schäfer wrote:
Hi Eddie, LF/MF,

I'm a bit confused in the last days by the number of various digimodes which have been tested. Gary started with RTTY which is fun and allows real QSOs on 630m, apart from CW. But if each mode is done as a short test to check its performance, then it quickly becomes boring. What i would like to have is a mode which is used by several active amateurs, a real QSO mode like CW. A mode that lasts longer than a day. I thought that AMTOR-FEC could be useful but i didn't make any tests yet. However if i have to assume that there will be 2 or 3 interested QSO partners who will be available for a short test QSO and then QSY to GADFDSMSFASKMDKFK-4 or whatever, then none of these modes are actually interesting for me and i come back to CW where i can be sure to find a QSO partner without announcing my activity before. Today, tomorrow, next week and next year :-)

What do you suggest? :-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC

PS: And where is Mal? :-)


Am 11.03.2013 23:52, schrieb g3zjo:
Sucess.

Just a little more signal and this would have been a really good QSO over our path of 127Km conditions are not good tonight, my antenna current is down.

Eddie

On 11/03/2013 21:53, g3zjo wrote:
LF

Searching for a Narrow Keyboard QSO mode suitable for QRP on 630m. I went back to a program I used several years ago.

Currently Testing GMFSK not to be confused with gMFSK which is a Linux program.

GMFSK is an FSK Mode using Varicode by JE3HHT Makoto Mori included in MMVari.not new program it is of the usual high standard found in his software.

GMFSK has variable width, currently I am running at 15.625Hz wide. 474.200 Dial 1900 tone frequency.

JE3HHT provides fine documentation with his software, for some reason all the other modes covered by MMVari are well covered but when h
e gets to GMFSK he says that it is beyond the scope of the instructions. I have yet to find more details about the mode.

This Mode should be better than RTTY and faster MFSK for higher power stations too.

73 Eddie G3ZJO



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