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Re: LF: Overnight on 474KHz WSPR

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Subject: Re: LF: Overnight on 474KHz WSPR
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 19:26:24 -0000
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Now there's   good  selection  of  parasitic   air-metal   , take it  , that's  a  90 deg L ?  ,  a lot  would  depend  on how sharp  the  tune  'dip'  is ?  as  to damping , wont mention missing  in this  sequence   P_R   unless  we  get computational salvo based on soil=ph (cleverly omitted) 
 
 
what is  missing , is the earth  side  ?  what go's up must come down as  the  song  says ,
 
Could be  5 mW as   an    erp , BPF  something  like     1 :2000  1:2500 seems to  sort of  fit  ?
 
Who is round a  similar  range  to  you  ?   could  set  up a  test , set  up  Tx session   ask   them to  sent  Op with  10  watts  , same power as your self 100%  and check the  decode  s/n  from  other  stations , that  would  give a  reasonable   comparison , especially  in the  day ?
 
73 -G..
From: g3zjo
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Overnight on 474KHz WSPR

Hi G

Decided I would go measure the ant, rather than quote what it was going to be. (Would I lie to you baby).

10W RF
Ant. Marconi inv. L. Vertical section 3.5m -  Top section single wire 7m long.

Absorption Factors:-
Metal core clothes line 400mm from Loading coil, 400mm from vertical wire.
9m steel mast with VHF antennas 2.5m from feed point.
6m ally mast with 4m antenna & TV ant. 2.2m from feed point
House and wiring 2.5m from feed point
40m Doublet and feeder 2.2m from feed point
8x6 aluminium greenhouse under Top Wire far end
Top Wire crosses 40m Doublet wire 200mm from its end 100mm vertical clearance.
Top Wire ends 100mm from 6.3m steel mast
6.3 steel mast emerges from top of plum tree 5m tall.
Holly tree 5.5m tall 5m from end of Top Wire
Active antennas horizontally 5m from Top Wire
7/8 28MHz vertical 7m horizontal from Top Wire
Surrounded by Houses with overhead mains electricity feeds on 3 sides.

Can I sat it was shoe horned in.
If you can work out a loss figure I would appreciate it.

73 Ed

On 16/03/2013 11:18, Graham wrote:
    What is the  feed  power //Ae  lay out  Ed ?
 
G..

From: g3zjo
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Overnight on 474KHz WSPR

On closer examination, the night before produced an extra 20Km.

2013-03-15 03:52      G3ZJO      0.475638      -27      0      IO92ng      +7      0.005      OH6JKN      KP22xk      1944      1208


My garden fence gets further away, don't ever be foolish enough to decry small antennas and QRP operation. Don't decry give it a try.

73 Eddie G3ZJO

On 16/03/2013 09:57, g3zjo wrote:
LF / MF

After complaining about the poor conditions last night, the overnight results were better.

I had several reports form PA1GSJ who has not previously decoded me. Also a new best for me, getting near to that 2000Km mark.

 2013-03-16 01:22      G3ZJO      0.475629      -27      0      IO92ng      +7      0.005      OH5YW      KP30ju      1924      1196

73 Eddie G3ZJO


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