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Re: LF: DSP app to multiply tone by 4 ?

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From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:52:55 -0000
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Tobias


Yes that's the other way I suppose , harmonic generator and some filter .the ssb tx will do the rest ( we hope)...may be a email to Patric , multi psk , he did make a test version some time ago , with a wider tone spacing

Those station with logic divider chain driving a class e/d amp ..only need to square up 1.9 MHz with a x4 tone spacing ,feed it to the chain and the output is the data mode on 477 , with the x1 spacing .. simple !


Be nice if there was a app that looked like a soundcard , could select as the tx card .......but its a simple way to run data on 477 , the mfsk mode's , proved a lot better than psk in the past and do not need a linear tx/rx path

250 Hz b/w mfsk or the ros-mf mode 100hz all could be used , (olivia needs a linear tx/rx)

73-G.

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From: "Tobias DG3LV" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 1:21 PM
To: "Graham" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: DSP app  to  multiply   tone  by  4  ?

Hi Graham !

An alternative would be to use hardware like two cascaded active rectifiers using OP-amps to get the frequency x 4. As those digital modes do not need linear sine waves on transmit, it is no problem using even square-wave-tones for modulation. Maybe some filtering is necessary to not overload the AF-input of the transmitter.

This circuit could be realised as an inline-PCB between soundcard output and TRX input.

Certainly such a "solution" is not really "elegant", but should do the trick.

73 de dg3lv Tobias

Am 25.02.2013 13:24, schrieb Graham:
DSP app  to  multiply   tone  by  4 ?
One thing that one of the PA (Dutch PA) stations spotted , is the 477
band is a handy divide by 4 from 1.9MHz .. and if you use two
flip-flops , you can divide from 1.9 to 477

Setting the rtty shift x 4 in fl digi 340 HZ , then gives 85 Hz at 477

A problem with the multi tone modes , unless its possible to write a 'dsp'
app , that multiplies the tones by 4 , single tone fixed amplitude in
real-time or slightly after ,
That would open up all the (non linear) modes
to 477 , X2 for 'logic' drive amps, X2 drive, and X4 for conventional on
frequency amps ?
Q  Is this  a  possibility ?
Could  something  be coded  , that  either looked  like a  sound  card
, or took audio in , and outputted a multiplied frequency by 2 or 4
Could  have delay  as  long  as  the delay  was   fixed ?
G..



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