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Re: LF: Re: 475kHz crystal

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: 475kHz crystal
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 21:46:19 -0000
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Ah,, may just be a dumb code gen , sure I have seen some driving software on the Analogue site

G..

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From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:31 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 475kHz crystal

Ok Minto

This implies it can address the via the serial link , if so , then its a way in ?

73 -G,


http://designtools.analog.com/dt/dds/ad9850.html

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From: "Minto Witteveen" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:23 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: LF: Re: 475kHz crystal

Graham,
Did you find a website of the mfg of this specific board? I can’t find it, although there is plenty of info on the Internet for this specific board (pin layout, programming specs). And of course 9850 datasheets on the website of Analog Devices, the mfg of the DDS chip itself. Can you point me to the website with the pc based support software, I will look into it to see what it can do. But whatever the software can do, you still need to interface the SPI, and a ‘standard’ PC has only the parallel interface that can be used..

Minto pa3bca




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-----Original Message----- From: Graham
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 22:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 475kHz crystal

From the  mfg  web-site , seems  to  be  pc based  support  software ?
could not this be used to run the 'dds demonstration kit' directly
?

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From: "Minto Witteveen" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 8:42 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: LF: Re: 475kHz crystal

Hi Graham,

It is possible to use the parallel port of a PC to control the DDS, the DDS has a 3-wire SPI interface. See for instance: http://www.qsl.net/p/pa3ckr//signalgenerator/ . Here you will find (amongst a lot of other info) a VB program to control the DDS (http://www.qsl.net/p/pa3ckr//signalgenerator/prad9850.zip). But be prepared to re-install W95 or possibly DOS because it will not work with newer versions of windows….

Using a PIC is the easiest method I think. Andy already beat me to it, see his earlier reply to my mail. If you do not want to make a PCB you can even build it using a prototyping breadboard.

Minto pa3bca




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-----Original Message----- From: Graham
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 21:16
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 475kHz crystal

Minto

Is it possible to communicate with the DDS from the PC for a simple
VFO or  need  the  pic  ?

G.

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From: "Minto Witteveen" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 6:46 PM
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Subject: LF: Re: 475kHz crystal

Or, as long as you are going to use a PIC anyway, order a AD9850 DDS module from buyincoins.com. This 0-40MHz DDS costs less than $5 (including shipping). Add a cheap PIC, a $5 2x16 LCD and a rotary encoder (or use your PC to communicate with the PIC) and you can generate any frequency you want. And use the PIC to generate Opera, wspr, qrss.
My next project. I already have all the components….

Minto pa3bca.




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-----Original Message----- From: Klaus Hirschelmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 12:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fw: LF: 475kHz crystal

Hi Pete and group

maybe we can bring http://www.hanssummers.com/ for also offering 630m-Band versions of his QRSS and WSPR kits.

He doesn't seem to have taken MF on board as far as I can see. May one of his rigs can be modified I have not checked my self.
He does mention the use of Si570 programable xtal. I have one on a board with set frequencies from a PIC and selected by binary from a dil switch.
They will not operate as low as 500kc/s so they have to be divided with
either a CD4040 or CD4060 or any other logic divider. However it gives
stable selectable xtal frequencies. In this case it is probably worth going the extra mile and make up a DSS as the master oscillator which will give
VFO coverage. I think your pays your money and takes you choice as they
say....... hee.

What i intend to do, is building a relatively simple Stand-Alone WSPR beacon for 630m-Band. Using a Si570 with additional divider seemed to be quite an expensive solution. So i did order 7611.2 KHz crystal ( there is a company manucturing crystals according to given frequency ). By using a HCF4060B
oscillator/divider this should give a stable signal around WSPR midden
frequency 475.7 KHz. WSPR signal generation is planned according to
http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus/WSPR/WWVB_WSPR%20VCXO%20Contoller.pdf where ( for use in Europe ) i intend to use DCF77 time signals instead of WWVB.
Suitable PIC program version is made by PE1NWL and available via
http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus/ , while DCF77 receiver module is obtainable
from Conrad Electronics.
Because of later signal division by 16, this conception will require a
multiplication of crystal FSK deviation by same factor. For WSPR this should
result in values around 23.43 Hz which ( i hope ) will not cause any
problem.
So far my plans in the moment, but of course it would be much easier, in
case somebody would offer a kit already doing all i like.
..
Klaus, DJ7OO











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