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Re: LF: Something different

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From: "Markus Vester" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 20:47:22 +0100
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Yes the "new" Alpha Fx frequency does fit the supposed pattern; the central peak is exactly at Fx = 12695.3125 Hz.
 
On the F2 frequency, the central line happens to be notched at this location, due to coincidental antiphase superposition of dashes from the three transmitters.
 
Best 73,
Markus
 

Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Something different

Roelof,
 
ah, yes, I had overlooked that Trond had already mentioned Fx = 12.700 kHz. According to your measurement, and in analogy to F4 but with F0 replaced by the alternate 781.25, this one should probably be
 
Fx = 260/16 * 781.25 Hz = 12695.3125 Hz
 
Will try to check it in a narrow spectrogram when I get home.
 
Best 73,
MArkus
 
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Hello Markus, 

I can hear now:

11.905 kHz, 12.500 Khz, 12.649 kHz, 12.695 kHz, 13.281 kHz, 14.881 kHz and
15.625 kHz.
So there are now 7 stations active.

12.695 kHz is not mentioned in Trond's description, but 12.700 kHz is.
So, I assume that this is probably the same station and it operates in
conjunction with the secondary frequency set.

All other frequencies are accurate to the Hz, so 12.695 is that as well.
I guess you are aiming for more precision?

73,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt

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... actually you seem to have found a new one on 12.70 kHz which has not been listed before. Would be interesting to measure this frequency exactly and try to deduce a common divider.
 
73, Markus


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Verschickt: Mo, 3 Dez 2012 11:45 am
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Hi Roelof,
 
thanks for the hint. This must be their alternate frequency set, as mentioned in Trond's article
The extra traces are nicely visible, eg on Lubos' VLF Grabber
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)


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Verschickt: Mo, 3 Dez 2012 11:19 am
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Hello all, 

This morning the Russian hyperbolic positiion system Alpha is transmitting
on three extra frequencies.
See attached screenshot.

73,
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt

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