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 Hi Laurence, I didnt thinkanything as crude as "chaff"was 
used in ECM these days :-)) 
A couple of thoughts..... it was probably dropped from 
30000ft altitude 10km. the effective path length for reflection off that would 
be quite short around the same as VHF and microwave aircraft scatter. This has a 
rangel limited to arounf 700milesmax (I think some of that isdue to tropo 
bending too, which is not available at LF  
  
The original "chaff" was cut to half wavelengths but that 
was when radar was using vhf/uhf. At LF the effect would probably be one of 
scattering. I think the cross-section of a jumbo even, at 136khz would be quite 
small. Geo effects tend to make man's efforts look a bit puny :-)) 
  
Alan 
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  Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 10:45 
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  Subject: LF: Chaff and LF 
  
  
   One of the most interesting weather reports this week was 
  from Hawaii - when a radar image showed a broad swarth of radar returns some 
  15 miles long and 1 mile wide gradually moving South with the prevailing wind. 
  I first thought it was a a weather gust front or rain squal but the weather 
  chappy says it was from the ongoing military exercises and they had dropped a 
  large amount of the chaff stuff (radar sized/reflective) and it was 
  causing the X band radar to show it in detail.    I was pondering - 
  as I sat on the beach on Maui the next day whether this form of chaff can 
  actually produces anomolies below the frequency engineered - as a lot of the 
  new type of chaff has to cover a load of GHz and MHz channelling - if the area 
  is large enough, as this was, and the drop density of reflective material is 
  large enough whether it would cause some effects as it appeared to be dropped 
  from 30,000ft or so...even down to LF...?   Another anomoly was 
  seen this morning when I was returning from Honolulu back to Anchorage - I was 
  approx 1200 miles South of Anchorage and a Blue glow started to appear - 
  firstly I thought it was just a band of Green/Blue Auroral light we get fairly 
  often but  as we got closer it was the Notchtilucent clouds way way above 
  us - banded, stripes and globs of thin cloud being illuminated by the sun 
  which was way below our horizon and actually not even a pre glow. Now - this 
  isnt a normal radio thing either but on reading up on these clouds it appears 
  they too are radio reflective up to a point given the ions that attach to the 
  nulceous and given they appear to be sub-polar or polar, and mostly a summer 
  thing, when the temps are coldest at that altitude Im wondering if some of the 
  oddities we see on MF and HF are caused by these clouds 
  too...    
 
  
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