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Re: LF: AW: 477 WSPR + OPERA MONITOR

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Subject: Re: LF: AW: 477 WSPR + OPERA MONITOR
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 08:56:23 +0100
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Tnx Jan

Yes , the data server is something that needs to be constructed , but upto now , no one is looking at this ... may be when the Op beacon is part of the new VHF fixed beacons , then someone will take a look ! , JR is only DSP !

There are searches and downloads that can be taken from the PSK-Reporter system .... Im not sure as to what can be extracted .. something that needs to be investigated ?

There  are  some  major  differences  with  wspr/Op

Not all stations can Tx wspr on MF due to TX construction, wspr = fsk Op = on/off keying
OP  used  average   s/n  measurements

Hopefully more stations will monitor wspr + Opera , so that all stations are able to use beacons etc

73 -G.

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From: "pa3abk" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 1:36 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: AW: 477  WSPR  + OPERA   MONITOR

It was nice to see that Gerhard used both modes after each other.

Opera:
23:16 477 DK6NI de PA3ABK Op4 506 km -29 dB in Dordrecht with 0,1w + 40 Meter En 21:40 477 DK6NI de PA3ABK Op4 506 km -24 dB in Dordrecht with 0,1w + 40 Meter En

And WSPR:
2318 -25 -0.3   0.478512  0 DK6NI JN59 20
2144 -20 -0.7   0.478513  0 DK6NI JN59 20

As you can see it's a benefit if you can run both progs from the same "carrier" frequency.

I'm still more in favour for WSPR.
Opera is simple, it just starts it's beacon.
And if you have the same beacon interval as another you will never "see" each other. Reason I start the beacon manually, carefull looking at the interval of other users.
WSPR has a random start clock so chances you will catch up is more likely.

When I'm transmitting Opera it gives me a "Marconi Poldhu" feeling, WSPR is just 1 click "on" and after 2min click "off" :-) WSPR data is nicely stored on the server, Opera is lost after 24hrs unless a "cut & paste" action is done.
OK we are amateurs and there is no such thing as free meal.

Jan/pa3abk





On 9-7-2012 1:48, Graham wrote:
 Ok Gerhard
The last  wspr  I have  is  23-08 ?  signal  was  dropping  at that  time
Was the  beacon   alternate  ?
Later in the week , I will try wspr/opera beacon on 500 , see what happens
2012-07-08 23:08 DK6NI 0.478499 -28 0 JN59ln 0.1 G0NBD IO83lk 1058 299
 2012-07-08 22:58 DK6NI 0.478499 -29 0 JN59ln 0.1 G0NBD IO83lk 1058 299
 2012-07-08 22:54 DK6NI 0.478499 -26 0 JN59ln 0.1 G0NBD IO83lk 1058 299
 2012-07-08 22:48 DK6NI 0.478496 -26 0 JN59ln 0.1 G0NBD IO83lk 1058 299
 2012-07-08 21:44 DK6NI 0.478501 -27 0 JN59ln 0.1 G0NBD IO83lk 1058 299

Opera ,   PA3ABK    was  21-40  , then  23-16 ?
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23:16 477 DK6NI de PA3ABK Op4 314 mi -29 dB in Dordrecht with 0,1w + 40 Meter En

21:40 477 DK6NI de PA3ABK Op4 314 mi -24 dB in Dordrecht with 0,1w + 40 Meter En

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73 -G..

*From:* Beckmann, Gerhard <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, July 09, 2012 12:20 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* LF: AW: 477 WSPR + OPERA MONITOR

Hello Graham,

worked both in Opera as well as in WSPR on 477, but you only decoded in WSPR-Mode for this.

vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI

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*Von:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Graham
*Gesendet:* Sonntag, 8. Juli 2012 23:45
*An:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Betreff:* LF: 477 WSPR + OPERA MONITOR

477  WSPR  + OPERA   MONITOR RUNNING

TILL  ROUND    2330    GMT

73 -  G..



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