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Re: LF: 136kHz ferrite rod antenna test

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Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz ferrite rod antenna test
From: Stefan Schäfer <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 23:06:17 +0200
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PS: Jim, i am transmitting on 136.172 tonite, if you want to try with the compact antenna! ;-)

73, Stefan


Am 23.08.2011 19:51, schrieb James Moritz:
Dear LF Group,

Having said quite a lot about ferrite rods on the reflector recently, I thought I better try one as a quick "feasibility study"!

I have a large bar of ferrite I had assembled from surplus "U" cores some years ago as part of a portable SAQ receiving system (it's a long story...). The"rod" is about 470mm long, with rectangular cross section about 30mm x 35mm. This is rather larger than the rods used by DK7FC and DF6NM, but the ferrite is more lossy - probably 3C8 or some similar "power" grade. 30 turns of litz wire gave L about 360uH and Q of 150 (so using litz probably wasn't justified, but I had that length to hand). This resonates with about 3700pF at 137kHz, giving an equivalent parallel resistance of about 45kohm and a bandwidth a bit under 1kHz.

The preamp is a compound JFET/bipolar follower using a J310 biased to 6mA and a 2N3053 biased to 50mA (probably similar performance to a "mini-whip" preamp at 137k). The high Z input is connected directly across the tuned antenna winding. With the high QRN on the band this evening, it is hard to get a good view of the noise floor, so I used a "dummy antenna" consisting of a pot-core inductor wound with the same inductance and Q, substituted for the real rod antenna to simulate a zero signal and external noise condition. The noise output from the resonated dummy antenna was 10dB or more above the RX noise floor (SDR-IQ). The preamp with input shorted gave a noise level below the RX noise floor. So this preamp arrangement gives sensitivity limited by the thermal noise of the antenna, and adequate gain for the "reasonably good sensitivity" SDR-IQ (also for my RA1792).

I made a rough estimate of the overall sensitivity of the complete system by measuring the level of DCF39, which is a fairly stable 800uV/m here during daylight. On an arbitrary scale on the SDR-IQ spectrogram, DCF39 was -19dB, while the noise floor at around 137.7kHz with dummy antenna was -109dB with 0.75Hz FFT noise bandwidth. This works out to an antenna noise floor of about 0.03uV/m per sqrt(Hz), several dB below quiet 136kHz band conditions. So sensitivity of a receive system with this antenna should be limited only by the band noise; it should also be possible to reduce the amount of ferrite somewhat, especially if lower loss ferrite antenna rods are used. I await lower QRN levels for a "live" test !

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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