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LF: Re: Re: G3XBM - very long carrier VLF transmission test Dec 15th

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Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3XBM - very long carrier VLF transmission test Dec 15th
From: "mal hamilton" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:48:54 -0000
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Chris
Generally speaking if you want to propagate a LF signal that covers hundreds of Kilometres use an elevated Aerial and a good ground system.
The earth electrode TX and ground wires system is only intended for short distances and received using the same method, howerver there will be RF leakage and signals will also be copied  at short distances using an elevated aerial but maybe copied further afield when the TX station is using several hundred watts or Kilowatts.
 There is a lot of misleading and spectulative information about regarding earth electrode antennas. What some are using for so called antennas I am using as a ground for my elevated antennas.
g3kev
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:18 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3XBM - very long carrier VLF transmission test Dec 15th

Hi Roger,
I was under the impression that your earlier tests had shown that reception from your earth electrodes at any distance was only possible by also using earth electrodes. This suggests that those of us using an aerial stand little or no chance, correct?
From what I recall of tests done forty or so years ago with friends, using wideband audio into the ground, any form of 'in air' reception attempt was seriously bad. The reception of a signal injected into the earth as the conduction medium also required the receive system to be in the same medium i.e. the earth.
Do prove me wrong...and good luck with the tests.
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 10:51 PM
Subject: LF: G3XBM - very long carrier VLF transmission test Dec 15th

This Wednesday, Dec 15th, I will run tests on 8.7608kHz with very long continuous TX periods of several hours interspersed with gaps of 0.5 to 1 hour. Transmissions will start at 0900GMT and finish at 2300GMT. I will reveal the TX pattern after the test so the test is done "blind".

I'd be most grateful if suitably equipped stations could look for any possible signs of the signal, even though I shall only be using the 20m spaced earth electrodes and 5W as used for my local earthmode tests. Those able to screw the bandwidths right down may just be able to detect something, although I think it is unlikely at any great distance.

15.12.10    
0900-2300z 
8.7608kHz   
Carrier "on" periods of 30mins or more

Good luck to anyone having a go.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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