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AW: LF:Ice and frost on 600m antenna

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Subject: AW: LF:Ice and frost on 600m antenna
From: Stefan Schäfer <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:19:34 +0100
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GE, 
 
...but it will increase the PD inception level due to the high epsilon r and so 
you can run more power (voltage) ;-) You should use this advantage ;-). But be 
aware that the increased current does not melt the ice ;-) 
So power should be a function of the outside temperature which could be 
regulated with a temperature sensor that is controlling the duty cycle of the 
input signal or the DC-voltage of the PA by a class h modulator ;-)
 
73, Stefan/DK7FC

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Von: [email protected] im Auftrag von Graham
Gesendet: Di 12.01.2010 22:18
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Betreff: Re: LF:Ice and frost on 600m antenna


Pete,
 
The ice will be  pure  water  and may not  conduct .. will have  some  capacity 
implications though !
 
G .. 

From: M0FMT <mailto:[email protected]>  
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:51 PM
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Subject: LF:Ice and frost on 600m antenna




Hi LF Group 

In an attempt to calculating the effect of ICE (Haw frost) on my antenna I get 
these results. 

With a wire diameter of 1.5mm flex weave, it comes out to 1.1 amps for 60 watts 
RF applied. This is confirmed crudely by observing a pair of car festoon lamps 
(12Vx0.5A each) in parallel in the antenna up lead glowing to full brightness. 

With an estimated increase in antenna wire diameter to 10mm caused by the Haw 
frost I did not notice any change in antenna current by this method. 

Running the calculation through using a 10mm wire I get 1.2 amps and again to 
an absurd size of 20mm diameter there is virtually no increase in current. 

The recent WX at this location has had no noticeable effect on the antenna. If 
it did I would suspect leakage through a dodgy insulator at the top of the 
inverted "L" up lead. 

The type I use is a deeply ribbed glass insulator about 8 inches long. 

73 es GL petefmt





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