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Re: LF: TA on 500kHz Asperger syndrome?

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Subject: Re: LF: TA on 500kHz Asperger syndrome?
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:32:24 -0000
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Paul ,



looks like a advance case of 'Asperger syndrome' ?



But on a more technical note , I did a little 'work' on propagation on 500 last year,

with the help of the two excellent grabbers that have been providing a most useful

and consistent, window on the band since it was allocated.



My self and Gary, have made good use of the facility's during some of our combined experiments. Birmingham being some 75 miles by direct path and Shetland round 600.

I have never experienced, previously reported, conditions, where the signals from inside the Uk could not be viewed simultaneously, even the low powered, multi mode beacon can be viewed.



Interestingly, Though, the antennas in use at all three 'tx' sites are of the loaded short vertical format , which when modelled , are demonstrated to produce a very low angle of radiation , with very little skyward 'loss', the calculated efficiency may not be very high, but it's a case of



'its not what you have , its what you do  with it'



This is in stark contrast to the somewhat gauche large wirer arrays , previously described , which by ground coupling alone, fail to establish a suitable wave front to communicate over such distances , instead, radiate most effectively in a perpendicular mode .



The three carriers represent no more than 20 mW erp each are fed to a 35 foot top loaded inverted 'L' , and can be seen to provide an adequate trace for the purpose of the experiment



http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/propagation



I'm sure either Gary G4WGT of myself, or others would be quite happy to run any experiment's you may want to undertake.



G ..



G0NBD.









----- Original Message ----- From: "Reeves Paul" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: LF: TA on 500kHz


Mal,

The fact that you have rather firm opinions is, by now, rather obvious. This
should, naturally, not be restricted in any way and nobody seeks to do so.
The manner in which you express them is another matter. Any evidence of your ability to see other persons points of view is, however, rather thin on the
ground.

Paul  G8GJA
(quietly trying to do propagation research....... all modes welcome (rx
only, alas))

-----Original Message-----
From: mal [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 04 March 2008 19:40
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: LF: TA on 500kHz


I shall express an opinion when I consider it appropriate. Take it or leave
it.
Points of view are published in RADCOM some controversial and some
otherwise. I am a member but do not get aggrivated by remarks that I
disagree with, I try to see the other persons point of view.
G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: "John RABSON" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: LF: TA on 500kHz


Mal,

By all means tell us about the good things you have done.  Please do not
deride the achievements of others simply because you are not interested or
cannot see the point.

John F5VLF

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On 04/03/2008 at 17:14 mal wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Andrews" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: LF: TA on 500kHz


John,

> We have had to endure e-mails from the source you mention since the
> early days of 136. The best way to treat them is to ignore them

Thats what some in the Establishment said years ago about Wayne Green, they
did not like others opinions or discussion so he started his own Empire ie
73 Magazine and some would say it was more popular than CQ Magazine or QST.
This is what W6AM/Don told me when he invited me to his QTH in the mid
1970's.on my way back to the UK from Hong Kong, we had a great celebration
with him and all the W6 dx boys.
I gave them a lot of DX QSO'S for DXCC purposes when I was YI2DX, VS9MQ,
9V1OY, 9M2CC, VS6HI and the pacific area when I was VR4MH in 1958.
I had a lot of friends in W6 and KH6 in those days when I used to visit
those areas,  I also used to go to New York and normally stayed in the
Govern Clinton
Hotel 31st/7th Av. I wonder if it is still going, in the 1950's it was a
swinging place, with too many diversons for amateur radio activities.
I was President of the Hong Kong National Radio Society during 1984, DX was
my speciality.

de Mal/G3KEV

John Andrews, W1TAG



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