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LF: Re: Modulation pattern on 16kHz ?

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Subject: LF: Re: Modulation pattern on 16kHz ?
From: "Andrew Talbot" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:37:39 +0100
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The 16kHz transmission is MSK  (Minimum Shift keying).   An efficient, constant amplitude, data modulation format.   There was quite a bit of discussion about the mode on this reflector a few months ago, and I remember stating that the 16kHz transmission was one of the most "perfect" examples of MSK I have ever seen off air !
 
The 'minimum' of MSK refers to the fact that the frequency shift is the absolute lowest that can be used for FSK modulation, being exactly half of the data rate.   MSK is a mode that must to be received coherently, like PSK, to take any advantage of its good signalling properties.   The constant amplitude nature would make MSK the ideal mode for our use on 137k were it not for the difficulty of demodulating properly.   I believe Bill de Carle, VE2IQ has been working on an MSK implementation for some time now, but a good system for the mode is still some way off.
 
Low cost and inefficient, non-coherent, implementations are widely used at higher frequencies - a quick scan across the VHF spectrum reveals many MSK transmissions carrying telemetry, data, paging, and all sorts of signals.  A crude demodulation can be done simply using a PLL as an FM discriminator, but that gives a result no different from narrow shift FSK.    An off the shelf chipset, the CM589, makes for a low cost simple MSK data modem, but the implementation is geared towards high S/N paths and the chip will not suit our weak signal purposes.  (I've already looked at it )
 
Andy  G4JNT
 
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: 27 May 2001 22:29
Subject: LF: Modulation pattern on 16kHz ?

Hi all,

During some RX experiments in the VLF spectrum a few minutes ago, using a
bundle of ferrite rods and lot of wire as antenna. There was..
- a quite strong signal on 16kHz, 100 Hz wide;
- an other signal (stronger) on 18.3kHz, more than 200 Hz wide;
- the Russian Navy(?) on 18.1kHz, about 100 Hz wide with a typical FSK
pattern (transmitter switched off after the transmission).

An old list says on 16.0kHz is "Rugby RTTY 75", another says its "RTTY 200".
But the signal on 16kHz looks more like a well-shaped PSK signal to me. Or is
it just a very stable QRM in my neighbourhood..

Any information available on this reflector ? If the signal on 16.0kHz is
really PSK, where will the planned CW transmission be on Tuesday afternoon ?

Thanks in advance for any info,
 73's from Wolf DL4YHF.
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