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RE: VLF: Some natural signals

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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 11:38:34 -0400
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Hello Claudio,

Yes I agree with your sentiment, I was thinking of listening to the time-domain 
sub-Hz content; mixing or demodulating to remove any carrier (using Spectrum 
Lab or Matlab for example) and playing back 100x or 1000x faster (using Matlab 
for example), to take advantage of the ability of the brain to discern things 
that come through the ear that the brain cannot discern when those same 
patterns come through the eye (through the eye as with a time domain plot, 
spectrogram or other). Basically speeding up the playback of the natural 
(sub-Hz in this case) modulation to put it in the ear's response band. An 
interesting example of aural-path value comes from noise cancellation and/or 
weak-signal extraction work, where listening to (audio) playback of raw ULF/VLF 
RF data can reveal signal and noise characteristics that may generally not be 
noticed in spectrograms, FFTs and time-domain plots. But mainly the hope that 
the ear's processing may help to appreciate and enjoy some of the elegance in 
slower natural signals, just by listening to their sub-Hertz content with 
faster playback; for patterns that are particularly enjoyable, memorable or 
meaningful via listening.

It's interesting that you mention tenths of Hz shortwave-RF broadcast signal 
fading; I have looked forward to some future opportunity to listen to slightly 
simpler signal-fading in ULF and VLF bands by methods such as the above; 
listening for characteristics of ionospheric motion and other processes. Some 
signatures of ULF and VLF fading processes can be seen in plots of signal phase 
and amplitude vs time, but I'm looking forward to hearing what the ear can do 
with the same information.  

73,

Jim AA5BW

  

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Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 10:15 AM
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Subject: Re: VLF: Some natural signals

On Sunday 23 April 2017 06:34:07 you wrote:
> Thanks Paul,
> 
> What a wonderful sound.
> 
> Unfortunate that bird's magnetic sensors don’t have the 
> sensitivity/bandwidth for what you captured; they could perhaps tune 
> their nav systems for reduced sensitivity to the disturbance that 
> chorus indicates.
> 
> Do you know if anyone has made audio translations of the mHz to 1Hz 
> ionospheric-TEC waves (which modulate signals in HF and other bands)?  
> I'm referring to what some folks call ULF waves, where ULF refers to a 
> geophysical-community convention of roughly 1 mHz to 1 Hz.
> 
> Or if anyone has made audio translations of the mHz to Hz modulation 
> that magnetic storms can impress on VLF signals?
> 
> 73, Jim AA5BW
> 

Hi Jim. 

Interesting question,but how can I made this audio translation?

The 10 mHz signal period (T=1/F) is 100 seconds. 

So if I modulate in frequency or in amplitude a 1000 Hz carrier what sound can 
I heard? 
And the sound of the translated frequency like SSB USB (1000+0,01 Hz) is 
indistinguishable from a 1000 Hz sound. 

A 10 mHz frequency signal must be at least 100 seconds long for one complete 
sinusoid. 
If it's shorter how can I measure the frequency? 
Can I assume that the missing part of signal is a sinusoid?

In my opinion VLF signals (lower than few Hz) are better analyzed in time 
domain, not in frequency domain.

If you listen a 3600 seconds recording of VLF sound reproduced high speed in
3,6 seconds the sound should be interesting. But each "frequency" is multiplied 
by 1000.

The short wave AM broadcasting fading is an "amplitude modulation" with few 
tenths of Hz frequency (and some group delay distortion).

73 de Claudio IK2PII


 
 
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