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Re: LF: A few reports Sept 18th to 19th

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Subject: Re: LF: A few reports Sept 18th to 19th
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 21:08:07 +0100
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Hi Hugh

Its a little messy , when stations use half of the system , its possible to enter the dynamic list , by running the opera app and clicking Tx on 136 and/or 477, once in the list, random noise can trick the comparator, to show a match, the tell tail is the time and if the station is using a fixed frequency , the recovered frequency from the app should be the same ..

Its possible, to be spotted by the dynamic system and never actually TX, ie , by up loading a call , hence the system cross checks with other users for a time match, but this is the downside of the extra 5 or 6 dB gained by pattern matching , [136 and 477 only] , that's the same for any correlation system

73-G

example of time stamp quality check ,

g4wgt has decode at 1929 , DL-SWL has detection, the spot times meet the check limits = ok

19:29    477 G0NBD de DL-SWL Op8 569 mi -32 dB F:10% in  1502,2 Hz
19:29 477 G0NBD de G4WGT Op8 21 mi -9 dB F:19% in Chorley, IO83qo, 1511.2 Hz

Ik1HGI decode with DF8UO , then qty-3 dynamic spots at the same time = ok as well

19:37    477 IK1HGI de DF1VB Op8 Deep Search -36 dB in Dortmund 1496,1 Hz
19:37    477 IK1HGI de DF1VB/1 Op8 Deep Search -34 dB in Dortmund 1496,3 Hz
19:37    477 IK1HGI de F6CNI Op8 Deep Search -35 dB in JN19QB

19:36    477 IK1HGI de DF8UO Op8 -27 dB F:14% in Karlsruhe

random noise has triggered g4wgt by vk - '??' = false g4wgt not sending at this time

18:29 477 G4WGT de VK3XHM Op8 Deep Search ?? -37 dB in Melbourne Australia 1503.4 Hz

'??' Not known , if the next spot from df1vb/1 shows 1510 Hz , then is valid , if not = false

18:12 477 G0NBD de DF1VB/1 Op8 Deep Search ?? 465 mi -37 dB in Dortmund 1510,0 Hz

My local spots for df1vb = same  frequency = ok

19:48    477 DF1VB Op8 Deep Search -35 dB 1496.1 Hz
18:42    477 DF1VB Op8 Deep Search -36 dB 1496.1 Hz
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From: "LineOne" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 8:15 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: A few reports Sept 18th to 19th

Hello Graham.

It was a suspect positive at 1702 but it's a bit too late to double check the dynamic list and other receiving stations though I recall transmissions were listed at several times in succession but differ from my report. I suppose there are other possibilities such as his entering the wrong frequency. Rightly or wrongly my posting was only information for the sending stations and I naturally rejected all the other suspect reports.

73, Hugh, M0DSZ

On 19/09/2016 16:27, Graham wrote:
Hugh

For the call to be in the dynamic list , it has to be either by the TX station using the opera app and setting TX with 136 selected , the web - beacon will update the system , or QTY 2 decodes of the same call by other stations ...

The call must of been in the list , for you to spot it .. [ dynamic only compares the call's listed ]

If the class cannot use 136 , then its possible you have a false positive

Where you the only station to see the call at 17-02 ? if so, then the web linked spot would of been stamped '??'

73-G,




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From: "LineOne" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 11:32 AM
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Subject: LF: A few reports Sept 18th to 19th

A few reports overnight from Sept 18th to 19th:

WSPR15
1600  -13   0.8    0.137620    1   DK7FC         JN49     30
1630  -14   0.8    0.137620    0   DK7FC         JN49     30
and then consistently until:
2330  -12   0.4    0.137620    0   DK7FC         JN49     30
0030  -34   0.4    0.137603    0   R7NT          KN97     53
0230  -35   0.4    0.137603    0   R7NT          KN97     53
2145   -9  -0.6    0.137623    0   G8HUH         IO81     20
2215  -11  -0.9    0.137623    0   G8HUH         IO81     20

WSPR2
0850  -32  -0.5    0.137459    0   DF1VB         JO31     13 437

OPERA32
17:02  -42         1468.4 Hz      DO5JWA
(deep search: appears to be correct)

Hugh, M0DSZ






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