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Re: LF: Some LF again

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Subject: Re: LF: Some LF again
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 20:19:50 +0100
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That's one  of those urban things  :)

Sure the  abs range  is  3 dB per  bit + 3

But the reference point is floating , or else how to measure uV changes , that's under the control of the software , which puts the devices on the 'that's handy list' , there is a myth that dB are directly linked to $$

Some conditioning , B/W and gain , may be 10 dB should render the device quite usable , noting you loose one mixer and oscillator , in the process : ) what's the gain compression in the mixer ? all my Hf Rx have high wattage drive to the first mixer , switching fet ring , something like 5<>7 watts , with 100 + range

If it works , then something more exotic could be connected to the out put of the conditioning amp, the air-spy group have 'hinted that direct access to the a/d is provided , while at the same time marketing a up convertor ... at least there being honest .. but that is 24 bit , 72 + 3 = 75 dB , still 30 dB well short of the racal mixer , dating from 1972 , but with the right software , will do much better

73-G,



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From: "DK7FC" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 7:38 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: Some LF again

Hello G,

As far as i know, the dynamic range of these dongles is not suitable. 60 dB may be nice for playing arround but if you want to have a real RX for weak signal detection, something serious which is running 24/7, like Gary's grabber, you better spend the time and a bit of money and build something with 100 dB dynamic range. Or, if you don't like building your own stuff, buy some ready to use equipment, which is however just half of the hobby, in my opinion ;-) But designs covering a whole band (VLF/LF/MF) are up to date i find. Not the SSB and dial stuff.

73, Stefan

Am 16.08.2015 18:48, schrieb Graham:
Thanks  Stefan,

Gary sent a copy of his cct , Im wondering what one of the usb dongles would make of it , pre-amp and band pass filters ...

73-G,

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From: "DK7FC" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:50 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: LF: Some LF again

Hi G,

No, i've made to many modifications from time to time. There is no up to date schematic. But, it is a typical design. A suitable band pass filter, impedance converter matching to a SBL-3 mixer. The LO is 125 kHz, down-divided by a CMOS 4060 and a 4 MHz xtal. Then an IF-LPF. That's all. You may need an additional amp stage, depending on the incoming signal level...

73, Stefan

Am 15.08.2015 21:16, schrieb Graham:
Hi Stefan
Do you  have  a  link  to  the  CCT  for  the  soundcard  Rx ?

Tnx-G

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/136SCRX.jpg

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From: "DK7FC" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 6:18 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: LF: Some LF again

Hi LF,

I'm back there is WSPR-15 for some time. The power is reduced by 4 dB, unfortunately.

Maybe someone can catch a trace anyway :-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC






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