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Re: LF: DJ8WX 8.97 kHz

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Subject: Re: LF: DJ8WX 8.97 kHz
From: "Markus Vester" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 19:14:10 +0100
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Hi Graham,
 
yes this is an interesting option.
 
The correlation detector looks for spectral peaks in a long narrow FFT, which integrates across the total duration of the Opera sequence (about 2000s for Op 32). For a reliable detection, a phase-coherent central peak needs to be at about 15 dB SNR in the corresponding bin width (0.5 mHz). Taking a 100% duty cycle carrier for reference, at 50% duty cycle we have 25% (-6 dB) energy in the central peak, and another 25% in both AM sidebands together. Thus for Op-32, the threshold is around 21 dB carrier-SNR in 0.5 mHz, scaling to -46 dB in 2.5 kHz (or -50 "dBOp" on the Opera scale). The modulation energy will ideally also bring up a 15 dB correlation peak, which is normally sufficient to ensure unambiguous callsign identification. Extending the duration from 32 minutes to ~ 4 hours would gain another 9 dB, arriving at a threshold of -55 dB in 2.5 kHz (-59 dBOp).
 
On my rather noisy VLF grabber, the carrier from DJ8WX reached about 9 dB SNR today. Scaling the bandwidth from 1.5*0.48 mHz to 2.5 kHz, we get -56.5 dB SNR (or -60.5 dBOp) - just 1.5 dB bit short of an Op-4H detection. Of course other online VLF receivers (namely Paul Nicholson and OK2BVG) do have significantly better receive conditions so Op-4H correlation should be quite feasible there.
 
For the standard Opera software decoder, Rik's measurements had indicated a decoding threshold of -23 dB in 2.5 kHz for two-minute Opera-2. This scales to -35 dB for Op-32 and -44 dB for Op-4H (-39 and -48 dBOp respectively). Thus for Op-4H you'd want to see a carrier SNR of 21.5 dB in a "qrss 6000" grabber window, which seems a fair challenge at the distances we're interested in.
 
For comparison, Stefan's famous LF reception at VK2DDI showed about 15 dB SNR in an 11 mHz spectrogram, equivalent to -37 dB in 2.5 kHz (-41 dBOp). Thus an "easy target" for Op-32 or even Op-8 correlation, but still slightly below the edge of the classic Op-32 decoder.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
From: Graham
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: LF: DJ8WX 8.97 kHz

Marcu's / Uwe
 
This would  make a  good  test  for the   Op4H  ( 4 hour)  mode  and  the  correlation   detector ?
 
To date  there  have been  no  'dx' test , with the  addition  of  the  correlation  ,then  that  should give  three   possible detections  ?
 
OP4H decode ,  qrss plot  and  Correlation    ( and  50%  saving on power hihi)
 
OP4H has AFC  as the  shorter  modes and  is  designed for  normal sound card  use. with  sound-card  audio or  CW-comport Tx keying , rx  audio is  direct  in from  sound  card  , in short range  tests  -50 db s/n  has been reached , but  that  is a data  decode , would the  correlation , take the  level  below the  qrss  plot ?
 
73-Graham
G0NBD
 
 
 

Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:15 PM
Subject: LF: DJ8WX 8.97 kHz

Hi Uwe,
 
your 8970 Hz signal is widely visible across Europe
 
 
and now also good traces here
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
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