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LF: Opera to VK? (was WE6XGR 0P8...)

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Subject: LF: Opera to VK? (was WE6XGR 0P8...)
From: "Markus Vester" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 00:43:11 +0100
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Hi Stefan, Graham,
 
I think Graham's statement is not that far off.
 
From memory, I believe that the best Australian receptions of DK7FC peaked around 12 dB SNR in 11 mHz FFT (eg VK1SV on March 18). The noise bandwidth is 16 mHz ie -18 dBHz or -52 dB vs 2.5 kHz. Thus the SNR would have been -44 dB in 2.5 kHz, corresponding to -48 dB on the Opera average-power scale. There was slow QSB which limited the time window of best SNR to some 20 minutes, but otherwise no visible indications of multipath Doppler or chirp.
 
According to Rik's evaluation, Opera-2 decodes reliably at -23 dB carrier power in 2.5 kHz. Slowing to 32 minutes gains 12 dB, thus the Op-32 threshold is -35 dB in 2.5 kHz, or -39 dB on the Op scale. Often Opera has been claimed to go 2 dB further down (to -41 dB Op scale), but I believe this may be based on sporadic "lucky" decodes due to favourable noise statistics. BTW these do show up with other modes as well, for example WSPR occasionally gets -32 dB spots, way below its nominal threshold of -29 dB.
 
The Opera "deep search" correlation method is still under development, but so far it looks like it can indeed reliably detect and identify coherent Op-32 signals 10 dB below standard Opera decoding (ie -49 dB Op scale). This means that in the best-case, an Op-32 signal from Stefan could have been detected in VK with a theoretical 1 dB margin.
   
For comparison, JT9-30 should decode down to -42 dB / 2.5 kHz, ie. 7 dB better than the standard Opera decoder, and 2 dB "short of VK".
 
Of course we have to keep in mind that these dBs are more or less ballpark numbers, and the whims of propagation and background noise may add (or more likely subtract) several of them at any time... 
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Fw: WE6XGR 0P8 498KHz DIAL 2200 Z TO NIGHT


Am 27.12.2012 21:18, schrieb Graham:
[...]
I think  using  the correlation  10 dB  gain , Markus  has  found  using  OP32 , you  would  have a  confirmed  decode  in VK by  now  and  possibly  a OP32  decode as  well
Did he? :-)
Markus, is that realistic?
73, Stefan
  , where  M-C   is looking  for  a pattern  match , the  decode engine  is  extracting data  , but   from the  other angle  a   confirmation  is the  only  criteria : )
 
73 -G..
 
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