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Re: LF: WSPR Reports

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Subject: Re: LF: WSPR Reports
From: Piotr Mlynarski <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 22:37:31 +0100
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Andy Talbot pisze:
Looking at the WSPR database, F6CNI is decoding me consistently in the 0dB S/N region. At 391km this can't be realistic, and most likely comes from using a narrow filter - sub 200Hz - before feeding audio to the decoding software. The WSPR software does need a flat audio response in the 1400 - 1600Hz range, and preferably over the complete SSB bandwidth. Andy
www.g4jnt.com <http://www.g4jnt.com/>
Andy, LF group

i do not have at hand the wspr source code at this moment but as i remember it is a 'simple' addition/substraction of 1500 in the decoding/encoding scheme as the 'real' band in the program is between (-100 Hz; +100Hz) As i do not TX (yet! :) ) on 137 khz and use WSPR only for RX'ing it is , say, 'convenient' , to put your TRX into CW mode and use narrow filters to get rid of qrm otherwise being hard to kill when using wide (ssb) passband

the issue of feedeing the wspr database with correct freq. is solved by typing in the rx window the difference between your bfo offset
and the rf carrier frequency
suppose, you are using ssb mode and the rf carrier is on 137.500 kHz so in order to rx this, you type in the rx window 136.000 khz tx window 137.500 ; your trx is in usb mode and in the range 1400-1600 you look for the wspr signal

now , you set your trx in CW mode and your BFO offset is 600 Hz , so you type 136.900 in rx window instead of nominal 136.000
and the report yields correct freq. spot   /136900 Hz + 600Hz = 137500Hz/
(probably, in some rx hardware the left/right injection of bfo may be an 'algebraic' problem... )

Finally,
all the wspr S/N reports are presumably reffered to a 2500Hz wide passband. of course, the s/n report when using 500/250 cw filter is useless... but.... all the modern, black, trx boxes have variable SSB filters so it is hard to believe that everybody is using a unified 2.4 or 2.7 khz filter also, those modern boxes have another feature named PBT ( pass band tuning) Using it you may cut-off a good part of your 2500 Hz filter either from below or above the desired freqency so again, the reported s/n in such cases is questionable... in my view , the wspr is a weak signal mode - the real challenge is , therefore, to get positive decode of a transmitted signal using all accessible measures (filters,amplifiers, etc...) thus making the reported s/n rather of secondary importance ..
the above statement was reffered to 137/500 khz bands.
on classical HF bands things look probably better , being more unified ..
73, Piotr,sq7mpj
qth: Lodz  /jo91rs/



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