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LF: Re: Re: Sound Card mic Impedance

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Subject: LF: Re: Re: Sound Card mic Impedance
From: "James Moritz" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:35:55 -0000
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Dear Ken, Clemens,

As I recall, Ken is using a HF wire as a VLF RX antenna. The LF/VLF source impedance of such an antenna is basically the capacitance of the wire in series with some loss resistance - at 9kHz, Xc will probably be several 10s of kilohms, Rloss several hundred ohms. The source impedance is therefore always much higher than the load impedance of Ken's sound card and/or filter of 4 kilohms or less - so the RX sees a signal source that behaves approximately as a constant current source, and the voltage at the soundcard input will be (signal current) * (soundcard Zin). So the signal voltage will be nearly proportional to the input impedance. Reducing Zin from 4k to 50R will therefore reduce the signal voltage by a factor nearly 50/4000 - about -38dB. Actually, if a symmetrically terminated filter with Zin/Zout = 50R is used, to achieve the designed frequency response it will be necessary to have shunt 50R resistors at both input and output, making the overall input impedance at the antenna terminal something nearer 25ohms, knocking off a further 6dB of signal. Loss of 44dB in signal level may well be too much. Also unfortunately, the antenna impedance will be much lower at broadcast frequencies - so the current due to broadcast QRM may be increased, depending on the circuit design, reducing the effectiveness of the filter.

A better idea would be to design a singly-terminated filter. Connect a terminating resistor of as high a value as possible (say 1 or 2 kohm) across the soundcard input to terminate the filter. Then design a low-pass filter with "infinity" source impedance, and load impedance equal to the new soundcard input resistance. The attachment shows my first effort with the AADE software, with 30k cutoff frequency and 1k load impedance. The 10k source impedance isn't infinity, but is close enough for practical purposes. I fiddled with the values a bit to get preffered values. Note that the input capacitor C2 can "absorb" the capacitance of the antenna and feeder. E.g., if you connect the antenna via 10m of coax (100pF/m), and the antenna has 300pF capacitance, C2 could be reduced to 8.7nF to maintain the same response. The same also goes for the output side - but if the input capacitance of the soundcard is really several nF as some have found, the filter would need to be re-designed.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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