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Re: LF: Hoar-Frost and Antenna Losses

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Subject: Re: LF: Hoar-Frost and Antenna Losses
From: Rik Strobbe <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:40:22 +0100
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Tom

have a look at this : http://thayer.dartmouth.edu/other/inductor/papers/hfdeice.pdf

It's a paper named "Using Dielectric Losses to De-Ice Power Transmission Lines with 100 kHz High-Voltage Excitation"

73, Rik

At 19:18 12/12/2004 +0100, you wrote:
Dear LF Group,
 
last saturday morning we had the first hoar-frost this year at -6 degree centigrade. All the trees and bushes in the backyard looked beautiful and so did my 13-m-Marconi-antenna. Feeder and 33-m 4-wire-topload were coated by fragile white needle crystals rising the wire diameter from normally 1 mm to 4 or 5 mm.
 
Switching on the TX with te usual settings the antenna current had decreased from the normally 4.7 A (at frost) to 2.75 A! The antenna capacity remained nearly unaffected (about 660 pF), but tuning the loading coil showed a much broader maximum than without hoar-frost.
 
Some calculations showed the following values for the total loss resistance of the antenna system:
 
-  no frost, normal conditions:  R = 24 Ohms
-  frost:  R = 18 Ohms
-  hoar-frost:  R = 31 Ohms
 
According to some other measurements and observations these values should be rather realistic. The difference between no-frost and frost is well known and should mainly arise from the reduced losses in the greens - but where do the additional losses at hoar-frost come from? Could the hoar-frost be a lossy dielectric? There were neither visual corona effects nor seemed the hoar-frost be melted by the antenna current. Sunday morning it disappeared on itself and the antenna current rose again to the usual 4.7 A at -3 degree centigrade.
 
Anyone with a good idea?
 
73,
Tom, DK1IS
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