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Subject: LF: 3 way QSO/Accurate clocks
From: "James Moritz" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:18:52 +0000
Organization: University of Hertfordshire
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Dear LF Group,

Congrats to G3LDO, VE1ZZ and VE1ZJ on their QSO - if nothing else, it proves that the SNR in both directions across the pond can be good enough to support 2 way communications in a reasonable amount of time.

As regards GPS derrived clocks, etc, it seems to me that errors of the order of 1us or so due to the GPS RX are always going to be small compared to other uncertainties - for example, the distance between the two stations can be determined quite accurately, but ionospheric effects are bound to alter the effective length of the path by much more than microseconds. Also, the group delay of the average CW receiver filter must be at least a few milliseconds, and this will be dependent on where the signal is in the passband, as well as temperature/ageing effects. So the issue would seem to be not so much how to get an accurate clock, but how to calibrate it for a QSO over a particular path between stations using a specific set of equipment.

Incidentally, the 2000 HP - sorry, Agilent catalogue says their HP58503B GPS receiver will give time accurate to 110ns with 95% probability if I read the specifications correctly. The jitter on the 1pps output is <750ps RMS. The 10MHz output is specified in parts in 10^11 or 10^12 depending on the measurement period. It is in a cute box like a bench digital multimeter. No doubt easy mortgage terms are available....

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU


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