 ```To All from PA0SE Bob, ZL2CA, wrote: ``````I am strongly of the view that coaxial cable with the far end either short ``````or open ``````termination is mostly reactive at LF when "looking" in to the near end of the cable. The main issue is the loss factor (or Q). Which has the higher Q, a coil or a shorted end coaxial cable? >From an intuitive point of view, I would think a purpose built coil would give lowest losses for a given value of inductance needed. The designer is in full control of countermeasures for skin effect, proximity effect, voltage gradient and can select the best length to diameter ratio for a given frequency band. On the other hand, coaxial cable is widely used at VHF/UHF for "stub matching", however it does not appear to be technique that has been used on lower bands, where lumped components are generally preferred, and can be variable (variable capacitors and variometers) and so are more useful for "tuning up" or adjusting for a good match to 50 ohms. ``````Using N6BV's transmission line computer program TLA I have inserted different lengths of RG-213 coax, terminated in a short circuit. Starting from zero length the inductive reactance "seen" at the input of the cable starts to rise and reaches a maximum at about 1130 ft (344 m) of cable. There Zin = 435 +j 334 Ohm. When the length increases further X decreases and reaches zero when quarter wave resonance is reached. X = j 334 Ohm corresponds to an inductance of 388 microhenry. Apparently that is the maximum "coil" that can be constructed this way. But Q = 334/435 = 0.76. So it just does not work. That an "inductor" made this way has so much loss is not so difficult to explain. In a normal coil at LF the current has the same value at all points. The (I squared * R) loss per cm of wire is the same throughout the coil. But in an inductor made of a piece of coax, shorted at its end, current rises from the value at the input to a much larger value near the end. As loss is proportional to current squared the contribution to the loss in the pieces of coax near the end is very much larger than the loss near the beginning of the cable. The end result is a much larger loss than in the case of uniform current distribution and this translates into a larger R component in Zin = R + j X. At VHF the story is different. For instance a 23 cm long piece of RG-213 coax, shorted at its end, has at 145 MHz an input impedance of Zin = 0.78 + j 88.99 ohm. This looks like an inductor of 0.1 microhenry with Q = 88.99/0.78 = 114. Although the loss/100 ft of the cable at 145 MHz is very much higher than on 137 kHz this is more than compensated for by the small length of the cable. Therefore shorted (open) stubs as inductors (capacitors) can be used succesfully at VHF and UHF. 73, Dick Rollema, PA0SE ```