Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

[Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>]

Nothing happens here - the systems just carries on as usual.   Its noticable that during those periods, the signal drops to the daytime groundwave level.

 

Blame the sun :-)

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/14 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

Ok Andy ,

 

I have multi traces due to  local noise/carriers floating about and  coinciding with the measuring windows...

 

Noticed a couple of things so  far , Gary and my plots show a dip in signal 18:00  to  20:00 .. what happens round then ?  and round  07:00 a single sharp dip.. ?

 

Gerhards plot looks to  show the 'pre dawn' lift that I have never see before .. it was mentioned in a talk on MW dx at one of the HFC a while ago

 

Tnx, G ..

 

 

From: Andy Talbot

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:36 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

That listing was 5.29MHz to prove the S/W - it shows the power and tone frequencies of all three - RAL/WES/ORK on the TA path.

 

Don't forget to offset the time :-)

Andy  G4JNT
www.g4jnt.com

2009/3/14 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>

Dave, >>> Sample of 5290kc. over last night.<<<

 

Is this  from 5290  or  503.7 ....... ??

 

Graham ..

 

 

From: dave.riley3

Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:08 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Cc: 600MRG

Subject: LF: Re: Re: Multi-function beacon

Andy, beacons,

 

Looks like the beacon program is up and running correctly as 5 mhz shows relative sigs and frequency counts.

 

Last night conditions here were very poor for T/A on 600m, even with this broad high pressure area that helped keep the noise down. Even DI2AM was very weak and SM6BHZ did not decode.

 

So I will run it again on you tonight, but I did see remnanats of what looks like a letter K during the beacon transmission times from you ( in ARGO QRSS3 )...

 

 

Sample of 5290kc. over last night.

 

2009 03 14 03 00 47.51 39.97 36.06 23.91 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 03 15 34.12 37.03 31.32 23.36 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 30 33.87 30.14 35.05 29.91 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 03 45 30.91 26.89 26.38 23.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 00 32.25 44.39 25.68 24.24 0.00 0.00 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 15 40..13 39.54 35.79 24.24 0.00 1495.51 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 04 30 44.71 42.47 29.35 30.72 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 04 45 33.16 37.11 35.32 23.03 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 05 00 48.07 46.44 34.46 25.30 0.00 1495.90 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 15 43.12 47.39 30.40 23.83 0.00 1495.70 1494.14 0.00
2009 03 14 05 30 48.13 31.83 37.48 26.50 0.00 1495.70 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 05 45 47.11 42.90 37.04 22.88 0.00 1495.90 1494.34 0.00
2009 03 14 06 00 28.69 30.99 30.46 23.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2009 03 14 06 15 41.04 31.09 29.58 23.29 0.00 1495.90 0.00 0.00

 

The 'red' station usually seems the strongest on the graph...

 

TNX

 

Dave @ /17

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Andy Talbot

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; uk_beacons@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:57 AM

Subject: LF: Re: Multi-function beacon

Just a reminder to all - this beacon is still going, and will probably continue to do so until further notice.   A few listeners have downloaded the software, and thanks to all (you know who your are :-) for the plots / listings.   I am not in a position to compile them, so don't expect revelations, but Gerhard  /  DK6NI has been monitoring pretty well continuously, and has plotted some deep fades / enhancements measured over hours with depths in the regions of 30dB.

 

Are there any stations in the US in a position to monitor ?  

 

Please note that if using the recommended 5meg beacon monitoring software you'll either have to set the delta time to -240 (or -180 or -120) seconds or adjust the PC clock by two, three or four minutes to cope with the four minute offset I'm running it on.

 

Andy  G4JNT

www.g4jnt.com

 

2009/3/6 Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>

I've now started transmitting a timed  beacon signal on 503.7kHz that is identical in format to that of GB3SSS operated over the winter months of the last two years  from Poldhu on 1.9 and 3.5MHz,  and has a similar signal structure to the 5MHz beacons, GB3RAL, WES and ORK.  These all have an initial CW ident and stepped power levels for aural reception, and a precisely defined period of full-power plain carrier for S/N measurements.  

See   http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm  for the complete 5MHz  signal structure.  For this MF transmission, as on GB3SSS, the pulsed sounder sequence of the 5MHz beacons is replaced with a PSK31 message which lasts from 30s to approx 48 seconds after the start

 

Auto Monitoring software writen by G3PLX is available for monitoring these beacons, it measures signal to noise during the carrier period and saves to file as well as plotting the last 40 hours worth of measurements.

The software can be downloaded from  http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/hf/beaconauto.php .   PSK31 data can be copied with Digipan, Fldigi, PSK31SBW or a host of other packages.

 

TIMING

The 503.7kHz transmission takes place every 15 minutes at 4 minutes past the quarter hour. 

ie each transmission starts at xx:04, xx:19, xx:34 and xx:49    This time slot has been selected so that the transmission do not interfere with my continuous ongoing reception of the 5Mhz beacons - the active antenna used for these is overloaded by the 500kHz signal and I have already lost data when the WSPR beacon transmission coincided with one of the monitoring windows.

 

NOTE   If using the G3PLX software, this only monitors for the three 5MHz beacons at  00, 01 and 02 minutes.

SO IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO FRIG THE SOFTWARE  to monitor this transmission at the 04 minute point.   The necessary alteration can be done by firstly setting your PC clock accurately to the correct time, then setting the Track Time box to -240 (minus 240 seconds)..  This will make the software look for this transmission during the time window it thinks it would be receiving GB3RAL, and log the MF transmission during the first minute, on the red trace, as if it were GB3RAL 

 

The beacon uses the identical hardware to the WSPR transmissions of the last few weeks, with the the only change being a reprogramming of the controller PIC.   In fact the very same hardware was previously loaned to the Poldhu club for their beacons, with the only difference being a change to the final Low Pass filter on the output of the broadband PA.

 

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