Re: LF: Fwd: Questions about 73kHz and sub 8.3kHz

[Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>]

John,

   Good background information.  

A few years ago someone on the U.S. longwave reflector decided that it was a good idea to pepper the FCC with very pointed and specific questions. I recall e-mailing Bill Ashlock (now s.k.) and saying something along the lines of "you can talk yourself out of all sorts of privileges", Bill printed that out and hung it on the wall of his radio shack!

73 Warren

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:09 AM, John Rabson <john.rabson07@gmail.com> wrote:

My understanding is that, when dealing with Ofcom’s predecessors, the RSGB sometimes found it useful not to ask outright for a specific facility, but rather to say “If we were to ask you a question along the following lines …... what might your answer be?”.

This allowed the licensing authority to comment without having to say Yes or No. What they sometimes did was to say “We would not be able to give you that, but if you were to ask for this ...… we might be able to do something for you”.

Certainly, as has been pointed out in this and related conversations, there are some questions which the authorities would rather we did not ask – so long as we do not cause them difficulties.

John F5VLF/G3PAI

On 11 Feb 2014, at 14:49CET, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com> wrote:

> Roger,
>      I am not sure of the relationship U.K. amateurs have with OFCOM, but I found that here in the U.S. it is better NOT to ask. If you ask a bureaucrat they will naturally fall into CYA mode and give you the most restrictive and conservative interpretation of the rules. Remember, it is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission!
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> 73 Warren
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> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com> wrote:
> Still awaiting OFCOM responses after about 8 working days since first email sent.  Will post reply here, assuming they ever manage one. I am not hopeful.
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> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
> Date: 10 February 2014 13:46
> Subject: Questions about 73kHz and sub 8.3kHz
> To: licensingcentre@ofcom.org.uk
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> Early last week I emailed OFCOM but I have still not received responses:
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> My questions were:
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> Am I correct in assuming that radio amateurs may legally experiment in the old 73kHz band as long as output power is less than 72dBuA/m at 10m? This is the limit for licence-exempt inductive devices.
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> Also, please can you confirm that no licence is needed to operate below 8.3kHz (assuming no harmful interference to services above 8.3kHz). This part of the spectrum is unallocated.
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> Thanks
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> Roger Lapthorn
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