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Re: LF: last 23 Hr 136 op32

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Subject: Re: LF: last 23 Hr 136 op32
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 00:44:57 +0100
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Hugh,
 
yes , your  seeing  the  average s/n  of the  32 min Tx , either  decode or  detection  , the  recovered s/n is the  same  calibration ..as is the  reported  audio frequency , the  average  of the  Tx  / 32mins  for  op32
 
By   + 10 dB in hand ,  that  simply  intimates, the  Tx power could  be   x 10 less   -10 dB , before the  bottom of the  system is  reached
 
Not a  10 db pad in the rx line , that  would  reduce , say a  spec-lab plot.
 
The question  is ,  ''What exactly  is the  point of Opera'' ?
 
Simple , its a  engineering  tool  to validate the  path's  ability to  support a  DATA transmission  , the  % fade is  set at   + 3 dB  from the  system  lower limit , that  equates to the  fade  margin  , which, links to the  level  of  FEC needed  etc ,  in this form  a  'beacon'   [version  1-4-1 contains a  -20 dB s/n  15  chrs  plain  text mode] , unique.
 
Once the  system changes  to the  Dynamic  detector [ correlation] Dynamic , in that  its configured automatically  ,  past the  lower limit of the  op32 / op8  data  decode,  then the  Tx time  line is  evaluated as a  single  data  'BIT' against the  stored  pattern In this case, a call  sign list , unlike the  minimum of 40% recovered  data  bits , needed for a  decode..., hence  no  % fade , its a  go-no go  test  . the  spot time  of other stations is used to  validate , as  false spots , always  have  valid calls ...
eg .set of 4 correlation  detections  and 1 data  decode , the  decode  could provide validation , or the  coincident deep-search time stamps .
 

23:18 136 RN3AGC de RW3ADB Op32 21 mi -25 dB F:0% in Moscow 1535,8 Hz

23:23 136 RN3AGC de RA3TGZ Op32 Deep Search 235 mi -41 dB in Sarov 1536,4 Hz

23:23 136 RN3AGC de RA1ADF Op32 Deep Search -41 dB in St.Petersburg 1533,4 Hz

23:23 136 RN3AGC de SP5XSB Op32 Deep Search -41 dB in Raszyn nr Warsaw

23:23 136 RN3AGC de SM2DJK Op32 Deep Search -41 dB in Umea

 
This is  only  provided  on the  136 and  477 bands ,  where signals are  inherently  low , all  other's  remain  250 bit serial  data  decodes , including the  Op1H Op2H  op4H used  on bands below 136K
 
73-Graham
 

From: LineOne
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: LF: last 23 Hr 136 op32

Ask me who set 10db attenuation on his radio as well! As it's s/n ratio we're looking at it shouldn't make too much difference. There is also an obstacle, a 60m limestone cliff some 400m behind us in the NW direction, rising to about 280m.

Hugh, M0DSZ

On 14/08/2016 19:43, Graham wrote:
M0DSZ & G3XDV  Decoding  VO1NA last night  ,  impressive signal  levels , 10 dB in hand
 
R7NT Peaking  at  -34 , G3XDV ,  also    + 10 dB  
 
73-G,
 

2016-08-14 02:33:07   R7NT   KN97LF G3XDV   IO91VT  2.837 136   -40 Op32__~40dB

2016-08-14 01:33:07   R7NT   KN97LF G3XDV IO91VT 2.837 136 -34 Op32_||||||||_~34dB

2016-08-14 00:33:06 R7NT    KN97LF G3XDV IO91VT 2.837 136 -38
Op32__~38dB
 
 
 
 

2016-08-14 04:35:17  VO1NA  AA   M0DSZ   IO82LS 0 136   -33 Op32_||||||||||_~33dB

2016-08-14 04:00:03  VO1NA AA   M0DSZ   IO82LS 0 136 -35 Op32_||||||_~35dB
 
 
 
All spots showing on psk-map
 
 
VO1NA F6CNI 2200m OPERA 4062 km 04:35:02
VO1NA PA7EY 2200m OPERA 4044 km 04:35:06
VO1NA G6AVK 2200m OPERA 3792 km 04:00:04
VO1NA G3XDV 2200m OPERA 3730 km 04:35:03
VO1NA M0DSZ 2200m OPERA 3519 km 04:00:03
R7NT G3XDV 2200m OPERA 2837 km 02:33:07
R7NT F6CNI 2200m OPERA 2623 km 02:37:30
R7NT PA7EY 2200m OPERA 2492 km 01:33:10
R7NT SM2DJK 2200m OPERA 2179 km 22:37:29
R7NT SV8RV 2200m OPERA 1810 km 23:33:05
R7NT SV8RV-10 2200m OPERA 1810 km 23:33:07
R7NT UA4WPF 2200m OPERA 1445 km 00:33:06
R7NT SP5XSB 2200m OPERA 1400 km 01:37:31
R7NT RA3TGZ 2200m OPERA 908 km 03:33:07
LA3EQ G3XIZ 2200m OPERA 807 km 18:55:18
LA3EQ PA0OCD 2200m OPERA 674 km 19:31:19
LA3EQ PA7EY 2200m OPERA 671 km 17:11:22
RN3AGC RA1ADF 2200m OPERA 600 km 14:32:31
R7NT UT7GH 2200m OPERA 484 km 06:33:07
G3XIZ F6CNI 2200m OPERA 422 km 21:53:03
RN3AGC RA3TGZ 2200m OPERA 378 km 14:32:27
G3XIZ PA7EY 2200m OPERA 348 km 07:44:06
RN3AGC RX3DHR 2200m OPERA 150 km 15:23:16
G3XIZ G6AVK 2200m OPERA 81 km 07:44:03
RN3AGC RW3ADB 2200m OPERA 32 km 14:32:27
 
 

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