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LF: [OT]: Four signals on 38.0, 40.4, 42.5, 44.2 kHz - what are they?

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Subject: LF: [OT]: Four signals on 38.0, 40.4, 42.5, 44.2 kHz - what are they?
From: Manuel Carbonell Alanís <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 12:04:00 +0000
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Thread-topic: [OT]: Four signals on 38.0, 40.4, 42.5, 44.2 kHz - what are they?
Dear Stefan:

Of course, usually I read rsgb_lf_group all days; but I haven't any good contribution because I live in a city with too much RF noise...     :-(

But sometime I go to a good rural place and listen LF/MF, searching for long distance NDB...     :-)

73 de


                                        -Manuel Carbonell-
                                               (EC4AA)


De: [email protected] [[email protected]] en nombre de DK7FC [[email protected]]
Enviado: martes, 30 de mayo de 2017 12:14
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Asunto: Re: LF: Re: Four signals on 38.0, 40.4, 42.5, 44.2 kHz - what are they?

Hello Manuel,

Nice to see you here again. It is interesting to see how many people seem to read the reflector, but without writing daily :-)
I remember you saw a trace from me on LF a few years ago.

73, all the best
Stefan

Am 30.05.2017 11:12, schrieb Manuel Carbonell Alanís:
Dear friends:

I think, the signals in 38.0, 40.4 and 44.2 could be Swedish Navy. The last time I listen them was on Nov-15, with 38.0 and 44.2 kHz in parallel (on/off at same time)

73 de


                                    -Manuel Carbonell-
                                          (EC4AA)



De: [email protected] [[email protected]] en nombre de Markus Vester [[email protected]]
Enviado: lunes, 29 de mayo de 2017 20:55
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Asunto: LF: Four signals on 38.0, 40.4, 42.5, 44.2 kHz - what are they?

Bernd DF9RB from the DL0AO team proposed extending the display range of the wideband grabbers to 48 kHz:
 http://df6nm.bplaced.net/dl0ao/VLFgrabber/vlfgrabber_dl0ao_test.htm

Thereafter, we stumbled upon four unidentified strips on 38.0, 40.4, 42.5, 44.2 kHz. My first thought was that these must be local interference. But it turned out that they show pronounced nighttime fading, and they are also visible on Peter's grabber in Kiel:
 http://lf-radio.de/cgi-bin/ki/show_wf.cgi?date=17-05-26

All four frequencies carry the same 200 Hz wide spectrum. Zooming in exhibits a fine structure consisting of a number of closely spaced discrete lines, suggesting modulation with a constantly repeating bit pattern (see second grabber window at DL0AO). There are occasional bursts where the signal goes up by 10 dB for several ten minutes, like yesterday around 21 UT. The red or purple colour-DF would indicate arrival from East or Northeast.

Any ideas what these may be?

73, Markus (DF6NM)

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