Re: LF: 136KHz propagation

["Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>]

Hi Markus the incident radiation has a wide band of wavelengths .....the reference is a QST article(Dec 1999) by Bob Brown NM7M (Dean of Physics at Berkley)I have a copy somewhere in a QST CD. Yes and incident in that was the "layer" irradiated from the top looks quite thick. Careful correlation of the times might support it. Here at about 1400km range the bottom of the dip in the morning from HGA is very close to the calculated groundwave strength. It is also very consistent suggesting it is not an out-phasing effect. 

 

I have just received an interesting book via Google ....one I can almost understand :-)) so I will search further into this as I read it. The book does cover the precipitation from the ring current and its effect at LF This is the first time I have seen it in print......I dont have the library access for expensive text-books I used to have when at work :-((   All the previous papers described the effect but did not have the satellite data to relate it to radio path loss.  

----- Original Message -----

From: Markus Vester

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: LF: 136KHz propagation

Hi Alan,

 

the morning light shining from underneath is an intruiging notion, and I've been wondering about it since you first mentioned it a while ago. 

 

To me, one conceptual problem seems to be that the ultraviolet radiation must have passed the same layer on the way down further east, at the same slant angle. So far my understanding has been that ionisation of different molecules selectively takes out certain wavelengths. How can the D layer be transparent to a ray on the way down, and then opaque on the way up?

 

Best 73,

Markus (DF6NM)

From: Alan Melia

Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:56 AM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Subject: Re: LF: 136KHz propagation

Hi Markus, Spiros, there is another interesting effect at dawn. The weak rays of the rising sun actually strike the ionoshere first from underneath !! this means that the first photodissociated ionisation is very highly absorbing because it is formed at lower levels where the pressure is higher and the electron mean-free-path is very short. This has the effect of producing a deep dip in levels at dawn at mid-path. That is dawn at an altitude of 50km or so, not ground level. This effect is most noticable on N<>S paths which I think is the direction of the grabbers from Spiros.

 

An hour or so later the Sun will have risen sufficiently to illuminate the path from above and the daytime D-layer will build to provide daytime skywave. The signal levels in daytime usually show a gentle "dome" shape with the peak at mid-day at mid-path.

 

in the early days of 136kHz it was though that dawn would be a good time for DX because the noise was lowest. However we eventually realised that the noise was low because the distant noise which propagated by skywave was wiped out at dawn by this effect. Thus the best DX times are often (but not always :-))   )  early evening or about an hour before dawn.

 

Great Fun this Propagation stuff :-))

 

Alan G3NYK

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Markus Vester

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 8:36 AM

Subject: Re: LF: 136KHz propagation

Hi Spiros,

 

not really strange: the rising sun is suddenly ionizing lower ionospheric layers and increasing the absorption. 

 

Here's a somewhat simplistic explanation of diurnal propagation: At night, LF is mostly reflected by the lower boundary of the E-layer, at a height of about 100 km. After sunrise, radiation starts to penetrate deeper and ionize lower layers. So the conductivity of the D-layer increases so much that it starts to first absorb, and later reflect, LF. 

 

This is somewhat similar to a shunt resistor inserted in a transmission line: During the night it's a large resistor which will let most of the wave pass through, absorbing only a small fraction of the power which depends on "conditions" (like DST index, describing charges leaking down from a storage ring). At sunrise, the shunt suddenly conducts more ("closer to 50 ohms") so most of the wave is being absorbed. At midday when the sun is highest, the conductance is approaching a "short circuit" which reflects the wave from a lower altitude (about 80 km).

 

After sunset, the electrons and ions in the lower layers recombine quickly so the D-layer becomes transparent again. However at high altitudes, the gas density is so low that charges take long to find a partner, thus ionisation of the E and F layers persists throughout the night. 

 

Best 73,

Markus (DF6NM)

From: SV8CS- Spiros Chimarios

Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 5:58 AM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Subject: LF: 136KHz propagation

GM to all.
The same strange propagation tonight as every night.
At around 03.00z my signal disappear from DF6NM, DK7FC, YO/4X1RF & G4WGT
grabbers.
I have better prop earlier and during the day with day light.
73, Spiros
SV8CS