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Re: LF: Re: Arcing relays &c.

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Arcing relays &c.
From: "Graham" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:02:13 +0100
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Jim

Yes , that's a  limiting  factor,

The Delco open frame relays have quite a considerable, 'coil to contact' distance and some 4 / 5 mm contact gap,

2 or 3 mounted in line, daisy chained would produce quite a symmetrical lay out as the wiring could be simply single core btc linked across .. stray contact 'c' should even out the voltage ? .. you could remove the un-used contacts to increase the
isolation ...

Other than that, its either plug in coils or a remote contactor arrangement . but I would try the Delco relays first

G..

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From: "James Moritz" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:59 AM
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Subject: LF: Re: Arcing relays &c.


Dear Joe, LF Group,

Feeding this into 3 mH (X=2500 ohm at 137.8 kHz) gives 11.2 kV (17 kV peak) so relays in series as suggested by G8FZK and G3NYK should work
well.

It is a bit more complicated than that... if you have a number of relays in series, when the contacts are open there will be one or more isolated "floating" sections of conductor linking the open contacts. To ensure that the voltage is evenly distributed between the relay contacts, you would need to take steps to ensure that the potentials of these isolated sections are equal divisions of the total antenna voltage - this would mean adjusting the distributed capacitance in the relay wiring somehow. Also, the relay at the "hot" end will have the entire antenna voltage between contacts and coil, so coil-contact breakdown voltage would need to be much higher than the voltage rating for the contacts.

I'm puzzled by the 6pf/metre rule for monoploes. It seems the capacitance
of the monopole is much higher.

This is a good first-order estimate for wire antennas - it is reasonably accurate for wires up to a few mm in diameter, but if the antenna element is a conducting mast, the diameter will be much larger, and C significantly higher too.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU






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