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Re: LF: Antenna tuner

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Subject: Re: LF: Antenna tuner
From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:27:30 -0000
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Depends on how  much  power  you  are  going to  use  .....  50 / 70  watts 
, you  can  get  away  with  a  big  version  of  a  top  band  tuner  , 
parallel  tapped   tuner  .....over  this  voltage  / flashover  becomes  a 
problem for  a  end  fed  Ae  , I use a  top  loading  coil,  seems to  keep 
the  atu  voltage  down ..
Over  that  , you  need  to use a  auto  transformer  and  series  variable 
inductance , luckily  most  normal  HF swr meters  read  at  500  , which 
makes  tuning  a lot  simpler ........but  if  you  cannot  reach  1:1  , 
you  could have  harmonics  , the  swr  meter  , showing the  reflected 
harmonics   from  the  Ae  load   ..
A good  reason to  use  a  wide band   swr  metering system ... band  only 
ones  will  miss out of  band  harmonics
At  gb4fpr  , feeding  200/300  watts  in to  the  600  ft  delta loop, 
there  is  very  little  voltage  in the  tuner
73 -G.

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From: "Steinar Aanesland" <saanes@broadpark.no>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:03 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: Antenna tuner

Hi, thanks for the feedbacks from both of you .


"Why using such a big monster tuner? Because it is commercial?" Hehe,
absolutely not Stefan :) but a ham friend of my gave it to me when he
heard about my 600m transverter project. I will probably take it a part
an use it for other antenna projects.

I am now planing to make my own variometer, just for the fun of it. I am
a novice you know , and I have to take the small steps to learn. I came
across this page describing in easy terms how to make a variometer,
http://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/shortanttuner/shortanttuner.shtml .
It seems not be too difficult :)

LA5VNA Steinar
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Den 30.10.2012 21:37, skrev Stefan Schäfer:
Steinar,

Graham is right, the coil may be to small for a small amateur antenna.

Why using such a big monster tuner? Because it is commercial?

We have only 7 kHz of spectrum and assuming "normal" sourrounding
losses, you will not even need a variometer part. So it is just a coil,
some wire on a PVC tube and a ferrite transformer (or a tap or what you
prefer), then cox to the shack.

No problem! :-)

73, Stefan


Am 30.10.2012 21:24, schrieb Graham:
Steiner

That looks  a  little   1.6 MHz  ish   to  me  .coils  may  be  not
big enough  .   could  be  the  500  variometer  is missing  from the
space  ?

could make  a  auto  transformer  , next need a  series  coil of
sorts  , Ae  cap  will  do  the  rest

G..

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From: "Steinar Aanesland" <saanes@broadpark.no>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:09 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: LF: Antenna tuner

Hi all,
Is there anyone out there who is familiar with this antenna tuner?

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/2012-10-29%2023.49.15.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/2012-10-29%2023.49.36.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/2012-10-29%2023.49.50.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/2012-10-29%2023.50.00.jpg

I got it from a HAM friend and will try to use it to tune my 600m
antenna.  The trouble is that some parts are missing.

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