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Re: LF: good night on MF WSPR @G7NKS 1933km @ 50mW erp - winter plans

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Subject: Re: LF: good night on MF WSPR @G7NKS 1933km @ 50mW erp - winter plans
From: DK7FC <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 23:10:42 +0200
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Hello Jim,

Am 25.09.2016 13:53, schrieb James Cowburn:

Also are you okay if I share the excellent spreadsheet you sent me some years ago?  It's really useful

Was it the Excel sheet that i used to calculate the ERP from my kite vertical antennas? Share it if you like.

The Wifi is okay, it's the cheaply built BT router that is poorly shielded and so picks up my 472khz signals through it's paper thin plastic casing (prob because it has internal antennae) and this plays havoc with the broadband signals which are in the MF band and superimposed onto the phone line.  I need a better shielded router with external wifi antennae
Yes, that's an idea. Or, just if you like to know, you could try to temporarily run the router on batteries to break the common mode circuit, if this causes the problems. If it is running at 5V by an external SMPS, replace that by a 12V accu with a 78S05, providing 5 V DC. If this solves the problem, then you could use the supply together with a big ferrite core with a high AL value and wind a few dozen turn on it, using twisted pair cable for example. Before applying that common mode choke, you could try to measure the common mode current by using a ferrite current transformer and a scope. Then you see how effective the common mode choke will be...


I've tried putting them in shielded earthed metal boxes (biscuit tins!) with no effect. (biscuits were nice though!).  Similarly, stacked ferrite toroids on the mains inputs and DC power out have had zero impact.  They both have a very bright blue LED on the power cable whereas older units for my Dell D610/20 series did not have this "bauble" and were much quieter, but also were lower rated at 60W or 90W as opposed to these beasts which are around 120W to 150W, and run alarmingly warm at times!

If it is no common mode problem with the LAN cable i would try to switch a pi-network in front of the power supply, on the 230V side. 2x 1 uF (e.g. WIMA MP3-X2 250VAC) and then a iron powder choke (e.g. T106-26) with many turns of 0.5mm cu wire, two windings, "anti-parallel".   I actusally have a very good quality old mains supply filter unit built like this, I'll dig that out and try it.   I'd assumed it was just the smpsu part radiating through the plastic casing and undoubtedly having no filtering applied at the 19.5 output so the power lead to the laptop acts as a great antenna!!   The PSUs are sealed and I don't want to open it if I can avoid it.

Hm yes, it could be like that. Another source of unwanted currents could be over the AF cable connected to the soundcard. An isolation transformer may identify and/or solve the problem. Worth to experiment with all that stuff :-)

73, GL, Stefan
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