Re: LF: VLF Carrier on 8270.01 Hz from a ground loop antenna - The 6th station on Paul's spectrogram

[Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>]

Hi Jim, thanks for your comments!

>> higher elevation angles ...  could emphasize the process

Yes I think that is the case. We can try to verify the hypothesis on receive: Go to the DL0AO grabber https://vlf.u01.de/ and scroll down to the four stacked 424 uHz spectrograms. On the 26th and 27th, Stefan's trace from the institute (8270.000 Hz) went through midday minima around 12 UT. On the earth loop shown in vlf3 (top spectrogram, labeled "EW"), the minimum is indeed much deeper than on the E-field probe (vlf11, "V").

Best 73,
Markus

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Good diagnosis Markus; and excellent to see six ~ 8270 Hz signals on Paul’s grabber!

 I wonder if the distribution of the Earth loop’s radiation pattern includes a somewhat higher percentage of higher elevation angles (than with the five electric field antennas recently operating at 8270 Hz), which could emphasize the process that Markus described.

I think that Paul’s grabber’s 186 hour window with the six ~ 8270 Hz signals including diurnals and coordination is suitable for framing, a beautiful sight.

73,

Jim AA5BW  

 

 

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Subject: Re: LF: VLF Carrier on 8270.01 Hz from a ground loop antenna - The 6th station on Paul's spectrogram

 

Hi Stefan,

strangely, nothing is visible here in Nürnberg now.

At DL0AO, the portable transmission (~ 280 km) appears to be around 9 dB stronger compared to the institute in Heidelberg (~ 230 km, reference measurement at 7:50 UT on Dec 27). However here in Nürnberg it seems to be the other way round: the transmission from the institute (180 km) was strong  (up to 20 dB SNR) all day, but the signal from the guiderails (230 km) is completely invisible now. 

The explanation may be that a sharp midday minimum exists at 230 km. Looking at DL0AO traces, we can see that the signal from the institute indeed almost disappeared at noon. During earlier Experiments it seemed that the minimum was very pronounced on our 180 km path, but that was later in the year around April and May. This seems to make sense, as higher solar Illumination pushed the midday ionoshere further dowen, requiring steeper skywave angle to arrive at the same 3/2 lambda path difference for cancellation. 

Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

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Betreff: LF: VLF Carrier on 8270.01 Hz from a ground loop antenna - The 6th station on Paul's spectrogram

Hi VLF friends,

Since 11:35 UTC i'm running about 2.5 A antenna current into my 900m
long ground loop antenna. Frequency is 8270.01 Hz. The signal is very
strong on my own grabber in 57.6 km distance but also at DF6NM, DL0AO
and it looks like there is a peak now on Paul's spectrogram building up
slowly.
I intend to run the carrier for 2 hours or so, until the accu is almost
empty :-)
The H bridge PA voltage is 175 V and the power consumption is 450 W.
Today, the DC measuremant result is 66V for 1 A antenna current. It is
cold and wet!
More soon.

73 de DK7FC/P in JN39WI

PS: The QRN is exceptional low!!!!