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Re: LF: Phase meter for propagation experiment

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Subject: Re: LF: Phase meter for propagation experiment
From: "James Moritz" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 12:41:42 +0100
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Dear Wolf, Alan, LF Group,

I think I can set up this kind of experiment and leave it running fairly easily - but a couple of queries:

Signals like MSF have on-off keying. Feeding this signal into a digital divider , the counting process will come to a stop when the signal level falls below some threshold, so output from the divider will start and stop at points in the cycle which depend on the amplitude of the input. So the effect of dividing this signal to an audio frequency will be to introduce more or less random jumps in phase each time the signal is keyed, even though the original signal is phase coherent. Can the calibration software cope with this? If not, a signal with a continuous carrier will be needed for the reference - perhaps Droitwich on 198kHz will do.

Also, what signals do you plan to monitor? I expect the FSK and PSK signals would be quite difficult, because both receiving stations would have to track all the phase variations at the modulation rate, and store a vast amount of data to allow the relative phase to be compared - a high degree of timing accuracy (<1ms) would also presumably be required. Stations like DCF39 would be much easier since they are CW most of the time, but even here there is a jump in the phase every few seconds, so timing accuracy of the order of 1 second would be required for the two RX stations to compare the phase - still needing some work to achieve.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU




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