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RE: LF: QRM on 472.5kHz

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Subject: RE: LF: QRM on 472.5kHz
From: "Clemens Paul" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 22:15:03 +0200
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Hi Stefan, 

>But why did you 
>write that email at 10 hours after the QSO took place? When beeing in 
>the shack, i'm mostly watching incoming emails

I was unsure if you would do that, so I decided to resort to listening to
the
interesting stuff you were talking about (antennas,drinks, girls...:-) ).

>And they all use true class D PAs.
>Somehow most of the active CW stations do not have a "clean" 
>signal and 
>those who have a clean signal are not QRV :-)

I have no hands-on experience with class D PAs,only class B,
but it seems that key klicks with class D are NOT inevitable,see
http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=28417.0
Quoting from there:
---------------------------
"...Well, I know from the tube days that you couldn't just key the drive to
a tube class C final - major key clicks.  The same goes for class C, D or E
solid state amps.  You can't just key the drive - same problem - key clicks.
This is because the shape of the keying waveform is not preserved in class
C, D, E or F due to the fact that the amplifiers are not linear (nor should
they be!!).

"Overshaping" of the input waveform is NOT recommended with MOSFETs because
they have so much gain.  A parasitic can result when the MOSFETs are
operating in the linear region.  And if you are using digital drive (which
is a better way of driving MOSFETs) you can't even overshape the input.

So, what is generally done is to key the drive and key the high voltage
using a series element (a MOSFET or MOSFETs in parallel) - with the input to
the series element being a good CW rise and fall time.  The series element
is most easily created using a source follower and some type of pull up with
controlled rise and fall times.  Easy to do with simple R/C circuits. "
------------end of quote--------------------

So my main point is that it should be doable for a serious homebrewer to
generate a (nearly) key klick free CW signal also with a class D amp.
The stronger the signal the more important is a clean spectrum.

>Did you listen by ear or did you use a CW decoder?

My aural limit is at about 12-15wpm and you were going near 30wpm...
My compliments!

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ 
 
 
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