Hi Graham,
its a good thing that they did the ice-road truckers series before the
economic slowdown, traffic this year has been very light with a drivers not
even making their expenses to come up here. Anyway, I'm in avionics for an
operator up here. My apprentice is leaving, over pay issues, to work for one
of our competitors, Buffalo Airways. You might see him on TV in a year or
two as the people who did the Ice Road Truckers series are doing another one
on Buffalo Air. The attraction there is that they're just now making the
transition over to turbine aircraft with some Lockheed Electras, prior to
that their fleet was made up of DC3's DC4s DC6s and a couple of C46s.
Apparently parts these vintage machines are too hard to find so they've
updated the fleet with the Electras.
Thanks for the antenna recommendations. While it isn't practical to put a
top hat on the tower as the power lines pass withing 7 metres or so, I could
use the off-centre fed 80 metre dipole feedline as a vertical antenna for
receiving. I've been told that the landfill they used to make the parking
lot, that the house is in, has a foundation of old car bodies. So I should
have a good ground, and I know that I have one of the quietest places in town
with respect to RF noise.
If, or when, we get licenced to transmit on the band then I'll be looking
for some options. I did find a web site with a cursory description of a home
made Isoltron loop type antenna for transmitting on the 60 metre band, if it
worked it may fit my available space.
Its time to call it a night. Thanks again,
Ron
On Tuesday 17 March 2009 13:28, Graham wrote:
> Fine Ron,
>
> Well quite a lot of uk stations are running T or some form of top loaded
> vertical , with 35 feet vertical section, mine is in the form of a
> inverted L with 35 ft vertical, 40 turn/3inch top loading coil and 2 x
> 40 foot parallel ,capacity section, so your towers look to be fine ? what
> is the ground earth like , assume the lakes are fresh water ?
>
> 500 seems to be a funny frequency as theses small arrays appear to
> radiate quite well and distance/power looks good , 50 watts of mfsk prints
> well at 5/600 miles range
>
> A short 'long' wire may not work as well as you might think ..unless you
> can get the height , due mostly to ground capacity .. but if you can
> get 1000 mtrs out at fence height .. now that may do the trick (for rx)
>
>
> Andy's beacon is running 100 watts and looks to be reaching K4 land
> 4000 miles , you look to be 3600 miles so should be in range ? you could
> try loading up a T ,atu at the base and take a look on 503.7 , using the
> ral/plx software for the 5 meg project ? other beacons are about but are
> not 'timed' so need spec-lab, wsper or similar ..
>
> 73 , G ..
>
>
> Nb ... There has been a tv series showing the ice road truck's taking
> goods up the frozen lakes quite amazing to watch .... !
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ron Thompson" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:58 AM
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe
>
> > Hi Graham,
> >
> > my actual location is at postal code X1A 2H5
> >
> > I'm in the company crew house at the float base. In the Google map
> > for the postal code, at the highest available satellite magnification,
> > you should
> > see floatplanes along the parking lot and then in a cove on the upper
> > side of
> > the parking lot is a yellow Cessna floatplane. The house just to the
> > left of
> > the floatplane is where I live. Unfortunately, as the house is in the
> > floatbase parking lot, there isn't any antenna space around it. What I
> > do have is two 15 metre towers spaced about 48 metres apart that I use
> > for my HF
> > antenna (it used to have a company commercial HF antenna before). Any
> > LF/MF
> > antenna must be compact and mountable either to the house or one of the
> > towers. Power lines are between the house and cove, which may be a noise
> > source.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > On Sunday 15 March 2009 16:20, Graham wrote:
> >> I was looking on google earth ... looks to be a lot of sea planes
> >> about .. that would prevent any high mast ??
> >>
> >> the location looks a bit tricky ......a low long wire may be good ..
> >> but can you get one out , looks to have roads all round ?
> >>
> >> G ..
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Dave Pick
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:24 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: LF: Getting started, maybe
> >>
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >> I would recommend a loop antenna, there are various designs around such
> >> as
> >> Jim M0BMU's design, http://www.wireless.org.uk/BPloops2.pdf Even though
> >> you're in the middle of nowhere there, you should stand a chance of
> >> getting
> >> some of the US 500kHz stations ( www.500kc.com ) going under the calls
> >> WD2XSH and WE2XGR with numerical suffixes identifying the individual
> >> stations. We in the UK have 10W ERP but it won't be easy to get right
> >> over
> >> to you... Maybe you could contact some of the US stations in the North
> >> and
> >> do some test with them first?
> >>
> >> Good luck!
> >> Dave G3YXM.
> >>
> >> 2009/3/14 Ron Thompson <[email protected]>:
> >> > I've been reading the occasional posting to the list, wondering if I
> >> > could find some time and money to work with. As we do not yet have
> >> > licences for the 500KHz band, the best place to start would be setting
> >> > up
> >> > for receiving.
> >
> > --
> > Ron Thompson, VE8RT
> > Yellowknife, NT, Canada
> > 62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl
> > "Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is
> > 60:8
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Ron Thompson, VE8RT
Yellowknife, NT, Canada
62 28.060 N 114 20.648 W Grid Square DP22tl
"Who are are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is 60:8
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