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Re: LF: Earth electrodes - depth or surface area?

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Subject: Re: LF: Earth electrodes - depth or surface area?
From: Horst Stöcker <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 09:39:29 +0200 (CEST)
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Hello all,

not only the ground parameters and the over ground environment have their 
influence but as simple as logical: The contact of the earth rods to the ground.

Here is an interesting article about that:
http://www.academypublisher.com/ojs/index.php/jcm/article/download/0404284294/47

vy73 Horst DO1KHS/DI2AN


 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: John Rabson <[email protected]>
Gesendet: 27.05.2010 19:00:11
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Betreff: Re: LF: Earth electrodes -  depth or surface area?

>JB, Roger, LF,
>
>It isn't  quite that simple. The standard analysis of a long thin ground  rod  
>(as per David Gibson's article) is to  estimate  the radius of the buried 
>hemisphere  which would give the same capacitance. Knowing the resistivity of 
>the ground and  the estimated capacitance you can work out the equivalent 
>resistance. I don't have the analysis to hand but I seem to recall it models 
>the rod as an oblate spheroid (as long as the length/diameter ratio is not too 
>great which it isn't in the caving situation).  
>
>I seem to recall that the effective radius of a thin rod is about one fifth of 
>its length. To get the benefits of multiple ground rods you need to space them 
>by at least twice their  length.
>
>73
>John F5VLF
>
>On 27 May 2010, at 15:13CEST, John Bruce McCreath wrote:
>
>> 
>> Hello LFers,
>> 
>> While laying in bed this morning pondering the inside of my eyelids I got to 
>> thinking about the electrodes used
>> for "through the earth" communications.  What is more important, the depth 
>> of the electrode or its surface area?
>> A typical 3/4 inch diameter by 4 foot long ground rod has a surface area of 
>> 113 square inches, while a metal
>> plate 1 foot square has a surface area of 288 square inches.  If depth is 
>> the key, then obviously the rods have
>> the advantage, but if it's surface area, the plates win hands down.  Even in 
>> stoney soil, it's relatively easy to
>> make a slit-like hole into which could be slipped a sheet of galvanized 
>> metal with a lead attached.  To make
>> a good connection to the surrounding soil, pour some "kitty litter" into the 
>> slit and moisten it with water so as
>> to improve the contact between the plate and the surrounding soil.  Am I 
>> onto something here or have I
>> overlooked some important detail?   
>> 
>> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
>> 
>> LowFER Beacon "EAR"
>> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>
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