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Re: LF: Re: Ready for JT9 in MF

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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ready for JT9 in MF
From: Rik Strobbe <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:23:15 +0000
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Thread-topic: LF: Re: Ready for JT9 in MF

Hello Luis,


I would't care about that 7km, that's little more than 10 wavelengths ;-)

Also compared to the distance between us (about 1500km) it can be neglected.


73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> namens VIGILANT Luis Fernández <[email protected]>
Verzonden: woensdag 22 maart 2017 11:15
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: RE: LF: Re: Ready for JT9 in MF
 
Hi Rik, Stefan. Interesting discussion :-)
 
Yes. The problem here is worse, as I'm further away from the center of activity (central EU) and so better Tx
is needed to reach here. last night conditions were not bad. I can easily see that when I can see the trace
of the carrier at 475.500 in the WSPR grabber
 
I do already have my Rx at my remote QTH at 7km. This is not superb Rx, but much better than my Tx site
I can also use other SDRs for Rx, but here comes the point of this to be then ....fake QSOs ?? ;-)
 
How far away from my QTH can I use an SDR for Rx in a quite site and still consider it real 2 way QSO ?
This is a "Pandora box" probably and can fire up an eternal discussion thread. Contest rules normally
state a radius of 500m from antennas to operators. But we are not in contest. My Tx is a real signal
originated at my QTH and just need to "balance" my Rx to be able to receive stations
 
In therms of FUN, it is very funny to be able to hear the stations that can hear me in central EU
I checked that during the previous CW party and it was the only way to keep calling and not fall slept
Unfortunately it is hard to explain to the other OMs that they are not really reaching my receiver and this
are just one way QSOs ...... plus the other way patched by shorter radio path and then internet
May be this can be dissapointing for those thinking that they got a real QSO
 
My humble opinion is that FUN is first. As long as you don't try to set any "first" or record or whatever other
goal other than getting some fun using radio, with the help of new technologies
 
So, don't be sourprised if I answer the calls next time. But don't ask me for QSL !! :-))))
 
73 de Luis
EA5DOM
 

De: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de DK7FC
Enviado el: miércoles, 22 de marzo de 2017 10:23
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: LF: Re: Ready for JT9 in MF

...i would have another explanation :-)

73, Stefan

Am 22.03.2017 10:13, schrieb Rik Strobbe:

Hello Luis,


maybe your big building is good for transmitting but not so good for receiving due to all the local noise. Setting up a remote RX at a quiet location could do miracles.

In JT9-1 mode signals can be copied down to -26dB and you peaked +1dB, so these was a margin up to 27dB (500 x power !!!).



73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> namens VIGILANT Luis Fernández <[email protected]>
Verzonden: woensdag 22 maart 2017 9:54
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: LF: RE: Ready for JT9 in MF
 
Hi Rik
 
Pity ! Could not receive anybody here. And conditions were not bad at all. I was spotting LA2XPA in WPSR at that time
 
I have been monitoring JT9 for some time now and can recall receiving you and other stations
Unfortunately Eric, ON5TA, got a problem in his PA and is QRP now
 
Anyway the downconverter is online and if there is any other chance we can try QSO
 
73 de Luis
EA5DOM

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