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Re: LF: Re.Ground Loss

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Subject: Re: LF: Re.Ground Loss
From: "Hans-Joachim Brandt" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:19:33 +0100
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Dear Lawrence,

remembering the few results on ground resistance measurements published on this server I would regard your 120 ohms somewhat above average for 136 kHz. My own value is in the order of 80 ohms when using the house ground, and also when using an insulated radial system consisting of 28 wires of 10 m to 30 m in length, depending on the space in the relevant direction. Someone who had used his 160 meters ground system with several long buried radials also for LF had reported a value of 50 ohms at 136 kHz.

I have just heard of two reports of house grounds of about 25 ohms; in this cases a tube 12 meters deep into the ground is employed, or an extended wire ground system also deep in the ground.

Paralleling different grounds may be a special problem. Direct paralleling often results in an INCREASE in ground resistance. Therefore some stations use link or transformer coupling between feeder cable (connected to the house ground) and the antenna ground, to avoid the bad effect of direct paralleling. But if both ground systems are tuned against each other the resulting resistance may be the same as one ground system alone, or luckily somewhat lower, but never the value that is expected due to the paralleling of two resistances.

From next spring onward I will do further experiments with bare radials buried

flat into the ground, before settling on a final solution.

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB

LAWRENCE MAYHEAD schrieb:
I have just measured my TX ant impedance(R term) and it is 120 ohm! much
 higher than I originally thought.It is of course all ground loss,I am using
 3 ground rods close to the TX and the house water/mains system.I wonder
 wether anyone can  offer me comparitive figs for impedance and details of
 ground systems?
To improve I will have to put in an awful lot of radials! or consider
 counterpoises.
73s Laurie.




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