Re: VLF: GOTA

[David Hine <evad_hine@yahoo.co.uk>]

Hi Roman, 

Unfortunately, because of the bad attitude of DF7FC, and some others regarding the illegal use of public infrastructures as makeshift 

TX antennas, it's best the operating details of the experimental 1.6 Hz kit are kept private, as this technology is to be used in other 

radio projects. 

Also, this tech must never be used on public utilities, and as DF7FC cannot be trusted, I have been advised to ensure it's with-held.

Sorry to be such a bore, but when dealing with irresponsible (who should know better) licenced Radio Amateurs, this is the only course 

of action. 

This is not in any way personal, just a way of preventing the future and potentially dangerous abuse of public transport and 

power supply infrastructures. They are not intended as TX antennas, and that idea is best dismissed. The RSGB and Ofcom will 

expressly agree with not connecting a TX to any infrastructure.

With very kind regards,

David.

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From: Roman <rw3adb@YANDEX.ru>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2019, 12:29
Subject: Re: VLF: GOTA

Hi David!

> Hi Roman,
>
> The 1.6Hz ELF transmission came from Southern England,

Is it possible to tell us more details?
Whats power was used in experiment?
Whats ant for TX?
Who was Operator?
May be any links about it?

Roman

> Unfortunately, because of the bad attitude of DF7FC and the others, the TX
>
> details must now be with-held. That was a team decision. The screenshot was sent to show that unlawful TX connexions to motorway
>
> guard rails, railway infrastructure, electric / gas supply utilities and fences etc. are totally unnecessary for the transmitting of ELF
>
> signals.
>
> These DO NOT make good VLF / ELF TX antennas (not designed for the job), and will only bring trouble to the perpetrators, and
>
> disrepute to Amateur Radio. The RSGB and Ofcom would never condone this sort of illegal activity, as it's a form of trespassing, and
>
> poses public risk, and even death, if it disrupts signalling / traffic signs etc..
>
> I hope this makes sense, and any further crazy ideas in this direction cancelled.
>
> With very kind regards, David
>
> From: Roman <rw3adb@YANDEX.ru>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019, 17:46
> Subject: Re: VLF: GOTA
>
> Hello David!
>
> TNX info about 1.6 Hz TX!
>
> Please inform about details!
> Whats ant was used?
> Power?
> Who was an Operator if this is no secret?
>
> 73!
> Roman, RW3ADB
>
>> Attached is a screenshot of an ELF test transmission on 1.6Hz from the UK as received on a magnetometer in Sweden. You don't need
>>
>> to break any laws, designed to keep roads and railways safe. To do so is extremely irresponsible, and will damage the reputation of
>>
>> Radio Amateurs.
>>
>> Just have a suitable ELF TX method, David Hine
>>
>> From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández <luis@vigilant.es>
>> To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2019, 18:35
>> Subject: RE: VLF: GOTA
>>
>> Seems that Mr.Tesla ghost surged again
>> J
>>
>> By the way. We are still pending to see your signal bouncing around the earth. But obviously you are busy performing cops
>> games
>>
>> and teaching the golden rules to anyone who dares to experiment. That simply confirms what we tought about your promised
>>
>> experiments in ELF. Absolute FAKE
>>
>> N-I-L-L
>>
>> N-I-C-H-T-S
>>
>> N-A-D-A
>>
>> N-I-E-N-T-E
>>
>> That’s all you can contribute to this reflector. Your lawyer advices sound nice, but we really don’t neew more lawyers
>> or spectrum regulators here
>>
>> Anyway, you can write it in the instruction manual of your Tesla transmitting machine, when ready
>>
>> Pioneering in ELF needs some courage that you (obviously) don’t have at your elderly and bet, never had in your real life
>> (if any)
>>
>> Please Mr.Tesla, make a favour to this reflector and just write back when you be on air
>>
>> 73 de Luis
>>
>> EA5DOM
>>
>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]
>> En nombre de David Hine
>>
>> Enviado el: miércoles, 09 de enero de 2019 9:58
>>
>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>
>> Asunto: Re: VLF: GOTA
>>
>> Stefan, with greatest respect, none of my radio activities are illegal. They don't need to be. It's illegal in the UK to
>> use ANY public or other supply, motorway, railway and other utility infrastructure for connecting to unknown radio equipment. It must be the same in Germany too. That's in the 'small print'. Modern digital signalling is often very susceptible to RF interference.
>>
>> If it's on private land, the permission of that land owner must first be granted.
>>
>> It's all common sense -would you like anyone to creep into your back yard and erect an antenna without your permission??
>>
>> This sort of activity damages Amateur and experimental radio. NOV licences can be obtained, if you think you need to do
>> special or unusual radio researches.
>>
>> I bet you dare not ask your local authority if you can use public road guide rails for transmitting antennas -if you have,
>> and they granted full permission, then you have made a real advancement in radio. Ask your Radio Society what they think about this.
>>
>> I am not trying to be difficult, but you risk your radio licence and also risk jail if things go badly wrong on a public
>> highway or railway due to illicit use in this way, and also the reputation of other Radio Amateurs. You also 'put yourself 'in the frame' if an accident occurs that you did not cause -someone has to 'carry the can', and it could be you if a camera 'spotted'
>> you. The 'utilities' display trespass notices, which if you ignore, makes it extremely easy for them to say "See you in court!!".
>>
>> With very kind regards, David Hine
>>
>> From: DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de>
>>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2019, 7:25
>>
>> Subject: Re: VLF: GOTA
>>
>> Ooh you seem to be one of the experts when it comes to 'Do not' and 'forbidden'. Do you at least know why your (whole?) life is controlled
>> by fears? Posttraumatic symptoms of a very dictatorial, violent childhood? I hope you worked that out.
>>
>> Try to lead yourselfe by ideas and visions, by 'want to' or 'would like to', not by fear and 'must not', 'have to', 'should' and 'should not'.
>>
>> Also i clearly see you didn't follow the recent successes with guide-rail antennas on VLF and ULF, probably because you're tyrelessly working on your 'Tesla' TX antenna:
>>
>> Am 10.02.2018 18:30, schrieb David Hine:
>>
>>> I will also set up a broadcast (AM Modulated) signal in the Long Wave broadcasting band (LF), using it to transmit music as a testing programme.
>>>
>>> When it's all up and running on VLF / LF, I will put out various test signals using it, and join in the VLF 'fun'.
>>
>> That's almost a year ago. Now, where is the signal? W H E R E ?? Let's compare which antenna works better. The grabbers are watching.
>>
>> 73, Stefan
>>
>> Am 08.01.2019 23:44, schrieb David Hine:
>>
>>> Do not be tempted to use railway lines, motorway barriers, fences etc. for connection to radio transmitters. This is strictly
>>> forbidden, and
>>>
>>> if caught, you could end up in jail plus a huge fine. These structures all make rubbish antennas for VLF, so will never
>>> perform well, as
>>>
>>> the losses are extremely high, and so will never radiate a useful VLF signal. Never be tempted use any public 'infrastructure'
>>> as an
>>>
>>> antenna -it just does not work, and will be a waste of effort.
>>>
>>> Regards, David Hine
>>>
>>> From: DK7FC
>>> <selberdenken@posteo.de>
>>>
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2019, 22:26
>>>
>>> Subject: VLF: GOTA
>>>
>>> Hi VLF,
>>>
>>> You probably know:
>>>
>>> IOTA - Islands On The Air
>>>
>>> SOTA - Summits On The Air
>>>
>>> but did you know
>>>
>>> GOTA - Guide-rails On The Air ??!!
>>>
>>> The year 2019 should be the year of GOTA! Try it out. You can do it! No
>>>
>>> excuses like problems with the large coils, the high voltages, the XYL
>>>
>>> occupying the garden. Just go out, take a walk, and see what you can do
>>>
>>> with some wire and a transmitter and some other equipment! :-)
>>>
>>> 73, Stefan

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> 73!
>
> Roman, RW3ADB
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73!
Roman, RW3ADB